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Thank you for the quick reply and guidance. it Is a Waterbox 100.3 so a take down is fairly easy. Went through it to get all the fish out a month ago and is no problem. All corals on plugs aside from the nem so that is also a non issue. Conchs, snails, hermits, fire and cleaner shrimp is all that is in it. I run a klir filter roller, Santa Monica ats, nyos 160 skimmer and a bag of Boyd chemi pure elite. Will start the above when I get off work today and will be sure to snap pics along the way.

for the drops...normal pipette or a turkey baster drop? Also test 3 do I run a heater where the test rock goes over nite in a bucket?
 
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hey now that you showed total access we would not need the anemone removed at all, nothing can beat a takedown cleaning we would not need the bucket test knowing that. Takedown cleaning is doing the whole tank method #2 for one pass kill if the test models it effective


I was thinking earlier if this was a 100 gallons or something inaccessible then we might need to dose the tank water. We would have held the anemone rock overnite in the heated bucket so it’s not contacted, and hit the tank

but lysmata shrimp are #1 sensitive so knowing that it’s best not to plan for dosing water. A disassembly clean lets us work around nontargets and just detail the anchor from the target, it’s dental surgery but on a rock vs a bad tooth.

tiny pipette tip keeps it all focused nicely

*that plant is so weak so thin, even low work spray test1 is 98% likely to destroy it, peroxide does not hurt filter bac none of this is recycle risk.


it will be better to remove the mass outside the tank and kill holdfasts vs kill it in tank and it becomes detritus.

If testing showed this not peroxide susceptible, then my next step would be a fluconazole trial because it selects for green plants so well. It's weakness: not a hold fast remover, causes in tank detritus to rise. Fluconazole has growback patterns online, and then so does peroxide when hold fast dentistry is missing
 

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For sure looking forward to the pictures showing updates of this beginning to end progress @Serum153 no doubt you’ll be happy in no time following careful guidance from @brandon429 as he has guided many reefers through these stages. Enjoy learning hands on reefing whilst being in control of your system ;)
 

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Do I remove as much as possible before spraying in the future? I didn’t this round for option one

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Test rock 2 with scraping and drops of h2o2. I admit I ended up pulling on a lot of it and scraped where I pulled from..this was such a pain and I hoped that this isn’t the route . Used 4ml of h2o2 in one drop per root...very time consuming
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Ok that's perfect, that rock went to the dentist and back. Let's watch that sprayed one to see how well plant takes to peroxide in full mass. If it's not totally bleached out by tomorrow morning I'll be surprised. Fantastic test rock shots
 
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Bleach attack! I bet that sprayed no work one falls off the bone like fine ribs later and becomes detritus but low impact simply siphon out detritus.

when I go to the dentist, I want him to make my teeth look like that rasped rock it is as a reef tooth should be.

when this completes I’ll want to keep those pics here but also I’ll copy them to first post with credit, it’s how to test rock, in laser clean detail. And that algae is going down.

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see why rasping beats dremel or a whole rock dip, I hate dips. Rasping makes the painstaking detail picking transform into a rock that still has its reef color palette base, purple with some coralline. You don’t want to nuke it all anymore than you want a dentist to nuke your mouth, you want him to take time and detail, and your dentist wants you to show up in pattern so you dont present eight years of catch up work all at once.

plaque begets more plaque by providing co attachment surfaces

algae begets more algae by being an attachment and retention point for detritus, it collects around the base where algae attaches and feeds on site

directly removing algae is preventing one of its causes.
 
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O man I’d carve that bad boy up and meal prep the hound out of that

what are the things poking into it
must be temp sensor looks like heat resistant braiding
 

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O man I’d carve that bad boy up and meal prep the hound out of that

what are the things poking into it
must be temp sensor looks like heat resistant braiding
Just two meat probes is all. Where do I go from here after the tests u saw?
 
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Let’s choose which action to apply on more rocks, hows spray only lookin~
can you twist light hue to heavy white for the pic it really shows depth of bleaching the best
 
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I would still rasp or rub it all off externally; that much dying plant detritus swirling around inside from spray only will add to tank aging.

*since it dies off so well, growback is unlikely even without rasping

so if you can just rub it off or pull it off externally then peroxide the former holdfast spot with a few drops, rest 2-3 mins outside, rinse, put back, that really should clear this tank. pls keep us updated like in August time: we need good long term updates from our work jobs to show regrowth or fix characters


thank you very much for posting all your work and high res pics!
 

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Executing the plan today. Have a brand new bag of sand even though I could have just rinsed what I am taking out. Bought a trough for a temporary holding tank (for corals and live rock only/fish in a different observation tank). Plan is to clean the tank completely, add new rinsed sand, add scrubbed corals back on sandbed. Over the next several days as I don’t want to half butt each rock I am going to Remove Ulva from one rock at a time and treat the spots with h2o2. Return the rocks that look good to display and return the bad ones to the trough for another treatment. Some pics of today:
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Tank and sump cleaned. Tomorrow will be a sand rinse and addition of water/corals. Then rocks one by one
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Just saw these updates that is total, complete unmitigated resolve my gosh, watching intently. Peroxide does not undo the cycle bacteria in and on the rock, if you re assemble a perfectly cloudless tank and re acclimate the lighting it will come out of surgery just fine


you test modeled and do know something about target susceptibility before starting.
You’re target specific vs attacking corals with starving water params


ulva is a requisite hitchhiker, its cause is live rock vectoring.

When it’s kicked out, fully, might require a couple guiding touch ups due to delay, it can’t just reappear exactly like caulerpa can’t appear in a system it didn’t fragment into

ubiquitous invaders are cyano, green micro algae and a handful of others, some are airborne transfer...all reefs can get those no matter where assembled.

you've handled detritus storage which is GHA and cyano fuel, your actions prep for the next challenge not just this one that’s big scope gardening. It takes a lot of work and back breaking time and water gets everywhere, well that’s the unfortunate part we don’t have a better way yet lol
 
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