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Hello everyone! I’m looking for some insight on welding a steel stand for my tank. It is 48/48/24. I’m thinking I want it 32 inches tall. What size tubing do I need for the stand? It’s an acrylic tank. Would the 4 corner posts be enough or should I support the 4ft runs on the sides of the tank as well? Options for leveling feet as well?

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This is the stand I have for my 4x2x2 120.
3" on the top and 2" on everything else.
Very stable with no center brace.
Should work on yours with very little mods.
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I built my own for a reefer 750xxl out of 40mm square 3mm wall. I ran some load calculations on Fusion 360 and the SWL of my finished design was somewhere in range of 15x but more importantly I got the deflection down to <0.15mm at worst.
That'll be the biggest governor of material choice. Increasing thickness over 3mm doesn't really improve deflection much, going up in box size has a far greater effect.
I'd recommend getting someone to model it for you if you can't.

This was one of my early concepts
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And the real thing....
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Thanks guys. Yeah I cannot model it, I am uneducated when it comes to steel stands so I figured I would ask for help. Maybe I’ll go with thicker steel and angle supports? Still doing a bit of research.


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I built my own for a reefer 750xxl out of 40mm square 3mm wall. I ran some load calculations on Fusion 360 and the SWL of my finished design was somewhere in range of 15x but more importantly I got the deflection down to <0.15mm at worst.
That'll be the biggest governor of material choice. Increasing thickness over 3mm doesn't really improve deflection much, going up in box size has a far greater effect.
I'd recommend getting someone to model it for you if you can't.

This was one of my early concepts
IMG_20200907_210944991_HDR.jpg


And the real thing....
IMG_20200922_170142145.jpg
Do you like the Fusion 360 application?
 

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I like the Fusion app. I mainly use it for 3D printer designs. I have inventor at work.

I used 1.5" x 3/16 square tubing for mine. 48" X 24" Using leveling feet at the 4 3/8 plate locations

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Thanks guys. Yeah I cannot model it, I am uneducated when it comes to steel stands so I figured I would ask for help. Maybe I’ll go with thicker steel and angle supports? Still doing a bit of research.


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The biggest problem is the fact your tank is 48" square. When modelling mine I looked at doing a completely unsupported front or just a single offset support and iirc I needed to use 100x50mm 3mm wall on a 48" span to keep the deflection to a minimum. After looking at my under cabinet setup I decided there was really no benefit to the longer open span as I could just slide sump in from the end. The cost of making the whole stand out of 50x50 and 100x50 massively outweighed the benefits.

You haven't said if you're using sump? Where the overflow will be with impact the overall design.
 

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Interesting, these steel stand look super strong....
I am starting to think mine is not strong enough, no idea about deflection... calculations etc.
I just made it. Its only tacked togeather except the top and bottom frames.

What are you thoughts?
36x24x24 - 85G

Steel is 35mm x 3mm. and the over all stand is 2400mm or 95inch.
Stand is wider than the tank JUST to get max sump dimensions.

I wanted a big opening for the sump.
Back supports are under the corners on the tank and double thickness under the front.

There will be a large wooden bench top, on top of the stand 38mm thick so I am expecting that to add a lot of strength. The tank will sit in the middle of the stand.

anyway ... your thoughts?
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The biggest problem is the fact your tank is 48" square. When modelling mine I looked at doing a completely unsupported front or just a single offset support and iirc I needed to use 100x50mm 3mm wall on a 48" span to keep the deflection to a minimum. After looking at my under cabinet setup I decided there was really no benefit to the longer open span as I could just slide sump in from the end. The cost of making the whole stand out of 50x50 and 100x50 massively outweighed the benefits.

You haven't said if you're using sump? Where the overflow will be with impact the overall design.
I have my sump in a separate area behind the tank. So I can totally have supports on the 48in runs. It’s acrylic tank so a sheet of plywood will go on it and that will be cut for the internal overflow.

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