Tank birthday, 47+ years

[Freenow54]

So I need to learn something please. Why do you want it to grow algae?

 

[Freenow54]

So the surgeon removed my bandage, and my arm didn't fall off. he said there was much more arthritis in there than the X-ray showed, and my rotator cuff didn't have any more rotations left in it, as it looked like it had an argument with a chainsaw and lost.

But that's what happens to real men if we live long enough. If you didn't tear that 5 or 10 times, you didn't do enough in your life or have enough fun.

gross

 

[tbrown]

So I need to learn something please. Why do you want it to grow algae?

It encourages algae growth where you want it, on your terms. Algae is inevitable. Growing it on a scrubber means it's less in the display. Same idea as a refugium with macro algae.

 

[twentyleagues]

So I need to learn something please. Why do you want it to grow algae?

its an "algae scrubber". You want the algae to grow there to help control nutrients increase o2 and supposedly if the algae is happy to grow there it wont grow elsewhere in the tank.

 

[twentyleagues]

It encourages algae growth where you want it, on your terms. Algae is inevitable. Growing it on a scrubber means it's less in the display. Same idea as a refugium with macro algae.

Jinx!

 

[atoll]

ATS = Algae Turf Scrubber. Lots and lots of information on the net
Well worth researching.

 

[Paul B]

ATS also means atherosclerosis. but we don't want that.

 

[Freenow54]

nope. Hey just wondering are all of your parts made in the US?

 

[Freenow54]

ATS = Algae Turf Scrubber. Lots and lots of information on the net
Well worth researching.

Thank You I found it interesting but am confused. Have found the Sochting products but they say you need ton use their fluid. Meanwhile an article talking about the same product says hydrogen peroxide . Please comment , and also a little more usage detail would be appreciated. ie placement time used . Is this the same idea as Paul's reverse gravel Filter?

 

[twentyleagues]

Thank You I found it interesting but am confused. Have found the Sochting products but they say you need ton use their fluid. Meanwhile an article talking about the same product says hydrogen peroxide . Please comment , and also a little more usage detail would be appreciated. ie placement time used . Is this the same idea as Paul's reverse gravel Filter?

That is a completely different thing. The Sochting runs on hydrogen peroxide. ATS is just a screen you run water over with light algae grow naturally no extra chemicals needed.

 

[Paul B]

nope. Hey just wondering are all of your parts made in the US?

My new shoulders and knees were made in Indiana. I made sure they were not made in China or I would have got a different surgeon.

the algae scrubber has nothing to do with a reverse undergravel filter. It simply provides the algae with a better environment to grow, and I want algae, just not on my corals.

The reverse undergravel filter is the secret to having a half-century tank, but don't tell anyone because I like having the oldest tank on here.

 

[atoll]

Thank You I found it interesting but am confused. Have found the Sochting products but they say you need ton use their fluid. Meanwhile an article talking about the same product says hydrogen peroxide . Please comment , and also a little more usage detail would be appreciated. ie placement time used . Is this the same idea as Paul's reverse gravel Filter?

Hi,
No need for their own fuild/ peroxide at all.
I am in the UK and buy 12% hydrogen peroxide and diluted to my requirements. Currently 9% with 2 catalysts in a 100 gallon tank.
The Oxydator is best placed near the return pump in the sump if possable.
Oxydator's are left in the sump 24/7
Depending on the model which is dependant on the size of the aquarium.

Most use are the model A and model W.
There is an Oxydator's user group on Facebook with lots of information on Oxydator's.

 

[Subsea]

My new shoulders and knees were made in Indiana. I made sure they were not made in China or I would have got a different surgeon.

the algae scrubber has nothing to do with a reverse undergravel filter. It simply provides the algae with a better environment to grow, and I want algae, just not on my corals.

The reverse undergravel filter is the secret to having a half-century tank, but don't tell anyone because I like having the oldest tank on here.

I emulated Paul when I converted Joubert Plenum with deep sand bed to a reverse flow under gravel filter using 2” of aroggonite substrate. I consider the void under substrate to be a cryptic refugium for nutrient recycling and aroggonite substrate assist with buffering and trace mineral source.

 

[Paul B]

Subsea, don't tell anyone, or everybody's tank will last forever without quarantine or medication. It's a secret.

 

[atoll]

Subsea, don't tell anyone, or everybody's tank will last forever without quarantine or medication. It's a secret.

Sorry Paul, no secrets allow on R2R. You do realise that you will be number one enemy to all those making money peddling potions?
PROFESSOR MACK'S MIRACLE ELIXIR OF LIFE A CURE-ALL FOR FISH.

Relieves Symptoms of:

White spot, itch, bloat, ulcers, doppsy, parasites and anything a fish can catch including
Cramp Colic. Headache. Toothache. Neuralgia. Rheumatism. Sore Throat. Coughs. Colds. Asthma. Dyspepsia, Heart Palpitation. Warts. Snake Bites. Chilblains. Frostbite. Toxemia. Shingles. Scurvy. Catarrh. Rickets. Podagra. Dyspepsia. Dengue. Syphilis. Scarlet Fever. Tooth Plaque. Pneumonia. Distemper. Malaise. Bad Humors. Unpleasant Disposition. Feminine Hysteria. Depression, Fainting spells. Heartbreak and even acute NOSTALGIA.

Side effects may include death and often will which is a small price to pay for our wonderful cures don't you think?

 

[Paul B]

Atoll, all people selling dry foods, quarantine tanks and medications are not talking to me. I'm sorry.

I keep throwing fish in my tank with all those illnesses you listed but I just can't get my fish to get sick.

I am trying everything.





I even put Leeks on my front glass.

 

[atoll]

Atoll, all people selling dry foods, quarantine tanks and medications are not talking to me. I'm sorry.

I keep throwing fish in my tank with all those illnesses you listed but I just can't get my fish to get sick.

I am trying everything.





I even put Leeks on my front glass.

Me as well Paul, me as well. I mean what more can we do to have a disease outbreak? Personally I have bought fish others wouldn't go near. Like you never stressed new fish with QT, I mean why would we? I understand the concept but its flawed as we both know.
BTW have you tried this? I suspect like me you haven't and have never felt the need. BTW you do know any day you're tank will explode in all those diseases you have never had before and as predicted by some many.

 

[Paul B]

Atoll, I am Italian, so I eat a lot of garlic. Maybe that's why I never get sick except for needing new joints. I don't know if any of my fish are Italian, but I know they never ate garlic because their breath is nice and fresh.

 

[atoll]

Atoll, I am Italian, so I eat a lot of garlic. Maybe that's why I never get sick except for needing new joints. I don't know if any of my fish are Italian, but I know they never ate garlic because their breath is nice and fresh.

There are no Italian reef fish so you're safe there Paul. We do have cold water reefs in the UK.

 

[Freenow54]

So I saw a pretty effective idea to incorporate a reverse underwater filter. Use a canister filter return pipe, and put it into the tubes feeding the filter or filters and just control the flow by restricting the tubes with the excess spilling into the tank ? Opinion ?