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You do realize where the money comes from for every single “government” service you just listed...Governmental environmental regulations are extremely important. Not to mention the other services that government provides (schools, medicare/medicaid, social security, roads, 911, police/fire services, welfare assistance, regulations on business, etc.)
Similar to the Asian arowana ban. Can’t get one in the US because it’s an endangered species. However, they’re proven breeders in captivity. Seems like the best method of conservation would be a regulated importation, not an out right ban. It’s hard for a species to go extinct if we’re successfully producing them in captivity.Certainly they are, when managed responsibly. But this action of the State of Hawaii is nothing more than an unnecessary slap in the face to free enterprise, and is based on their mistaken belief that the aquarium trade is a threat to those species of fish involved. It is a heinous totalitarian imposition on the people.
The government is the only entity that has enough power to protect the environment. That's not going to change. Also, saying "just look at the VA". Also, you can't just say "look at the VA" to dismiss arguments revolving around government regulation. They're not the same.You do realize where the money comes from for every single “government” service you just listed...
Taking care of the environment is important, leaving it up to the government is not. Just look at the VA..
That’s abo up t the going rate. Here in Hawaii for the blue tangPretty sure i read that people with liscenses can still catch fish and that they had issued 3000 of them prior. So i doubt well see a increase in price anytime soon.
Are blue tang caught in hawaii ? I mean prices are already higher thanks to Covid-19.
Saw a blue tang a good 4 inchs long at petco yesturday for 109$ thinking.. maybe i should go grab him before someone else does. I dont see them that size usually in petcos or anywhere else. Usually theyre like 1 inch too small
Drive up I5 through Oregon and Washington and see first hand how all of that power plays out.The government is the only entity that has enough power to protect the environment.
The fires?Drive up I5 through Oregon and Washington and see first hand how all of that power plays out.
No, the clear cutting on federal land.The fires?
Yes there are tangs in other parts of the world. I have been on both sides of this argument. I commercial fished the Gulf of Mexico back in the 80’s and seen the destruction of the fish population due to long lines and fish traps. Undersized fish killed with never given a chance to spawn new life. Grouper and snapper were so abundant back then it was crazy. Now go to same spots and not one to be seen . They put restrictions and closures and now we are seeing good results. This all can be managed if we as a whole work with government to save our reef life. Hobbits are the least of their worries. Pollution, global warming are playing more a role in the destruction of our reefs. Sorry for the tangent but it’s means a lot to me that my grandchildren can snorkel any reef and see what brought me to this hobby.Tangs do live in other reefs. Will importers not get them from Indo or other sources.
Like it updated my thoughts ^^. I feel our hobby is falling apart and in 5-10 years we will have so many specimens by breeders we will have to release or kill them because their breeding like crazy. This is make the hobby more boring and common
I also feel our hobby is slowly falling apart, and some may disagree but here’s why i feel this. By all the changes happening and going to happen and eventually everything 100% aquaculture is going to make all of livestock not “uncommon or rare” anymore. Breeders are going to now breed fish like crazy for money which is going to make every specimen population go sky high. This is going to make the hobby less interesting because we will now have all these specimens by breeders
I agree with you, but it is my understanding that they use NSW at the places for breeding the tangs. The chances of them having parasites would still be very high. The stress factor is huge though.Man what's this supposed to even mean? Sorry to say but this isn't a super secret exclusive club for collecting rare pokemon. I don't care if there's more captive bred yellow tangs than clownfish in the next 5-10 years, I'll still try to keep one in my tank if I can to care for them and observe them. I, and a lot of others, got into this hobby because the Ocean is beautiful and I want to keep a slice of it in my house not because I can collect all the rare fish and corals and brag about it to other people. If rarity is so important to you I suggest you get into a hobby of collecting things like shoes that literally can't breed and constantly multiply. I heard kids really like yeezys, maybe you'll like it too. Or maybe too many people have a pair for you to enjoy getting into it, who knows.
If the ban lights a fire under the various breeders to start breeding more fish when they can I'm all for it. It will create hardier fish and fish that has never been exposed to the parasites and shipping stress from being imported, how is that ever a bad thing? In fact I hope that as we learn what is important in breeding these fish it helps us understand the kinds of environment these fish need even better so we can help preserve their natural environment as well so there's a ton of them swimming around.
Thank you for correcting me. But it's not unlikely that within the next 10 years that we make enough discoveries to switch to artificial saltwater, even if these kinds of fish are a lot harder to raise. At least that's my hopeI agree with you, but it is my understanding that they use NSW at the places for breeding the tangs. The chances of them having parasites would still be very high. The stress factor is huge though.
when the rest of the world, does what they do....how does the US's changes....change anything? Not trying to argue...just clue me in. because, if China/Japan etc...throws their stuff in the ocean, and we dont... it doesnt change anything, only kills the small businesses, not contributing to the mess.Good for them!
The earth is 4.5b years old.
Man has destroyed it in just the last 100 years.
Great to see leaders do the right thing, even if it wrecks my fun.
Maybe there is some hope.