Velvet or ich

[GothFishKeeper]

#fishmedic
Last night I got home from work to see what looked like ich on my tang and my foxface. All other fish were clean. Now this morning my watanabe angel is covered.

The only addition to the tank in the last year was the foxface about a month ago, and he had been in a system at work for 3-4 weeks prior to that with no issues. That being the case, I did not do a full QT on him.

Also I did add a new acro frag this past week from aquavault but i don’t see that being the cause because no water from the bag entered the tank.

If this is ich then I know I can fix it, but I’m terrified this could be velvet as the display at work just lost 90% of the fish from that. I have not brought anything home from that system though.

Also if needed i can take more pics with my orange camera lens when i get home this evening. I tried turning up the whites to take these pics but the blues still kind of muted them

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

#fishmedic
Last night I got home from work to see what looked like ich on my tang and my foxface. All other fish were clean. Now this morning my watanabe angel is covered.

The only addition to the tank in the last year was the foxface about a month ago, and he had been in a system at work for 3-4 weeks prior to that with no issues. That being the case, I did not do a full QT on him.

Also I did add a new acro frag this past week from aquavault but i don’t see that being the cause because no water from the bag entered the tank.

If this is ich then I know I can fix it, but I’m terrified this could be velvet as the display at work just lost 90% of the fish from that. I have not brought anything home from that system though.

Also if needed i can take more pics with my orange camera lens when i get home this evening. I tried turning up the whites to take these pics but the blues still kind of muted them

Well, the spots are ich. However, fish can have ich and velvet at the same time. For velvet, the key symptoms are not eating and very rapid breathing.

Luckily, both issues can be treated in a hospital tank with chelated copper at 2.25 ppm.

 

[GothFishKeeper]

#fishmedic
Last night I got home from work to see what looked like ich on my tang and my foxface. All other fish were clean. Now this morning my watanabe angel is covered.

The only addition to the tank in the last year was the foxface about a month ago, and he had been in a system at work for 3-4 weeks prior to that with no issues. That being the case, I did not do a full QT on him.

Also I did add a new acro frag this past week from aquavault but i don’t see that being the cause because no water from the bag entered the tank.

If this is ich then I know I can fix it, but I’m terrified this could be velvet as the display at work just lost 90% of the fish from that. I have not brought anything home from that system though.

Also if needed i can take more pics with my orange camera lens when i get home this evening. I tried turning up the whites to take these pics but the blues still kind of muted them

Well, the spots are ich. However, fish can have ich and velvet at the same time. For velvet, the key symptoms are not eating and very rapid breathing.

Luckily, both issues can be treated in a hospital tank with chelated copper at 2.25 ppm.

Noted, thank you. I don’t have a hospital tank at home and I don’t have anywhere to put one that’s large enough for all my fish at once. If I were to try and set one up at work, how long would you guess I have before I start losing fish?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Noted, thank you. I don’t have a hospital tank at home and I don’t have anywhere to put one that’s large enough for all my fish at once. If I were to try and set one up at work, how long would you guess I have before I start losing fish?

Lots of variables in play - but I'd say that you have a week before the fish become very sick, but the ones showing spots first will become sicker faster. I'd say that you'll lose most fish by 14 days.... However, I don't have a lot of experience with "end stage ich" - I treat before that point.