What Am I Missing???

scardall · Dec 17, 2015

sometimes magnesium sulphate will help popeye. The same stuff you use to raise magnesium with. make sure your mag isn't close to 1500ppm already.

Humblefish · Dec 17, 2015

Get it in QT and take some pics. Give us a good description of what you are seeing with the fish once he doesn't have rocks to hide behind.

kkgaskin90 · Dec 17, 2015

Humblefish said:
Get it in QT and take some pics. Give us a good description of what you are seeing with the fish once he doesn't have rocks to hide behind.

What will I need to match? I have a QT up and running for wrasses... It's got sand and rocks but I can take rocks out easily

kkgaskin90 · Dec 17, 2015

Breathing is very shallow. Not necessarily fast. Thin and pale but not as bad as the others were just before death. Eye that was popeyed is sunken and nonmobile. Other eye might be popeyed... Can't get a good look but it is mobile.

Humblefish · Dec 17, 2015

kkgaskin90 said:
What will I need to match? I have a QT up and running for wrasses... It's got sand and rocks but I can take rocks out easily

SG & temp

melypr1985 · Dec 17, 2015

Did you ever try the FW dip on this fish or any of the other ones right after they died?

kkgaskin90 · Dec 17, 2015

No, I have not. Was never able to catch the first and never found a body for the second.

Temp and SG were the same already. Here he is (sorry my kids are super interested):

melypr1985 · Dec 17, 2015

I think that eye might be sightless now. It's definitely sunken in and immobile. Not to mention the lack of reaction to tiny fingers right in front of it. Your kids are cute by the way.

Humblefish · Dec 17, 2015

Didn't you say you saw white stringy poop coming out of him? Still got some of that GC?

kkgaskin90 · Dec 17, 2015

Humblefish said:
Didn't you say you saw white stringy poop coming out of him? Still got some of that GC?

That was the second one that died a month ago. I have not seen this one poop-it has been hidden for a very long time. Almost a month since I've seen it come out to eat. It did not eat today when I put garlic soaked mysis in the tank... I saw he was out of his cave an decided to see if he'd go for it. Seemed excited but did not go after any.

I just stopped GC Monday.

kkgaskin90 · Dec 17, 2015

melypr1985 said:
I think that eye might be sightless now. It's definitely sunken in and immobile. Not to mention the lack of reaction to tiny fingers right in front of it. Your kids are cute by the way.

Thank you! Tiny fingers are no good for stressed, sick fish.
I agree. I don't think the other one is functioning well either, if at all. He did not react to the net coming, hasn't tried to hide in the QT... Though he has kept the "blind" eye to the glass, so maybe.

kkgaskin90 · Dec 17, 2015

Realized that didn't answer the question... Yes, I have more GC

FishRForMe · Dec 17, 2015

So sorry... I had a bi-color dottyback that killed 7 fish before I could catch it...

Humblefish · Dec 17, 2015

kkgaskin90 said:
Realized that didn't answer the question... Yes, I have more GC

What other meds do you have on hand? This is sort of a quagmire because other than the blind eye and lack of appetite, there are no other symptoms. I'm a bit stumped.

melypr1985 · Dec 17, 2015

Humblefish said:
What other meds do you have on hand? This is sort of a quagmire because other than the blind eye and lack of appetite, there are no other symptoms. I'm a bit stumped.

He actually doesn't look that bad does he? Besides the eye and not eating. I really dont see the "skinny" part either. Maybe it's the distortion from the camera and glass.

kkgaskin90 · Dec 17, 2015

Humblefish said:
What other meds do you have on hand? This is sort of a quagmire because other than the blind eye and lack of appetite, there are no other symptoms. I'm a bit stumped.

I know

and truly he *might* be ok, except for the vision and being skinny... My thoughts are the others died of a Prazi resistant fluke that he didn't get/was treated with the GC, and he's now skinny and/or dying because he can't see to eat. OR he has the flukes or any of a myriad of other things.

I have on hand GC, Kanaplex, Furan-2, Prazi, and Cupramine. He has been through all but Kanaplex and Cupramine.

Humblefish · Dec 17, 2015

melypr1985 said:
He actually doesn't look that bad does he? Besides the eye and not eating. I really dont see the "skinny" part either. Maybe it's the distortion from the camera and glass.

I'd like to suggest a FW dip to confirm/rule out flukes, but not sure the fish will live thru it.

kkgaskin90 · Dec 17, 2015

melypr1985 said:
He actually doesn't look that bad does he? Besides the eye and not eating. I really dont see the "skinny" part either. Maybe it's the distortion from the camera and glass.

He does look pretty bad. He's skinny (hard to get a good angle) and now going sideways. I don't think he will make it through the night.

Humblefish · Dec 17, 2015

kkgaskin90 said:
He has been through all but Kanaplex and Cupramine.

Dose Kanaplex (for now). The loss of vision was probably due to a bacterial infection and it might still be lingering. Kanaplex is readily absorbed by the fish's skin and is pretty mild so I can't see it hurting anything. Just don't want to hit him with too many meds at once.

melypr1985 · Dec 17, 2015

kkgaskin90 said:
He does look pretty bad. He's skinny (hard to get a good angle) and now going sideways. I don't think he will make it through the night.

If he doesn't then do the FW dip anyway with just plain tap water. That way you can see if it was flukes or not

I hope he makes it though!!