Why Fish are dying.

[Lisa Cain]

In the past week I have lost 2 clownfish, a Midas blenny, an anthias, and a powder tang. Remaining are a fox face which is hiding today, the blue hippo which is better today, two wrasse, two chromas and a goby. I am attaching pictures and video. I do not see ich or velvet. The clownfish did not have visible ich or velvet. The powder tang had a small case of ich and the baby clown fish was pale in color. The invertebrates and corals are okay. I appreciate any advice.

 

[Lelegance]

Could have been a lack of oxygen. What is your PH?

 

[W31Olds]

When was the last time you added something to your Tank? Fish or inverts. If your Powder Tang had ich or Velvet that's still in there so you need to treat your remaining fish and Fallow the Tank. I would transfer them to a Hospital Tank for Treatment with Chelated Copper but catching them is going to be a chore. BTW, Nice looking Tank.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

In the past week I have lost 2 clownfish, a Midas blenny, an anthias, and a powder tang. Remaining are a fox face which is hiding today, the blue hippo which is better today, two wrasse, two chromas and a goby. I am attaching pictures and video. I do not see ich or velvet. The clownfish did not have visible ich or velvet. The powder tang had a small case of ich and the baby clown fish was pale in color. The invertebrates and corals are okay. I appreciate any advice.

With the invertebrates doing well, I think you can rule out water quality issues.

The fish in the video are a bit far away to see clearly, but I can see some twitching and rapid breathing. The breathing isn't rapid enough to confirm velvet and I don't see any ich spots. One possibility is gill flukes. Prior to death, did you see any of the fish flashing or scratching on surfaces? If so, I'd say this is a fluke infestation.

You might consider trying a praziquantel treatment - at least, you can do that with the fish in the tank with the invertebrate. Here is a post with instructions on how to do that:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/dosing-praziquantel-pzq.1105700/

 

[vetteguy53081]

The powder blue has more of a skin irritation and I agree with flukes over ich

 

[W31Olds]

Vette, her Powder Tang died.

 

[Lisa Cain]

Could have been a lack of oxygen. What is your PH?

 

[Lisa Cain]

Update Fish Medics : I was able to take a picture of the Fox face and get him out of the tank. I am headed to the local pet store to purchase a tank I can convert into a hospital tank. As of now he is in a big bowl. I did a freshwater dip an d now he is in saltwater. He was strong enough to jump out of the bowl twice. My son is watching him while I rush to the pet store. It looks like ich. I put in a few drops of ich ex. Going to get copper.

 

[BubbleAlgaeFarmer]

Oof, that poor guy. Following along to see what the fish pros say

 

[Lisa Cain]

I have placed the fox face in a 10 gallon hospital tank with an air stone, I have treated the tank with Coppersafe Fritz (ich, velvet and external parasites) and ICH -X. I will check the temperature of the water. The blue hippo is swimming eating a little but I do not see ich. I will see how he eats this afternoon. If I can catch him. I will put him in the tank. He may be okay. The cleaner Wrasse, goby, and other wrasse plus the 2 chromis seem okay.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I have placed the fox face in a 10 gallon hospital tank with an air stone, I have treated the tank with Coppersafe Fritz (ich, velvet and external parasites) and ICH -X. I will check the temperature of the water. The blue hippo is swimming eating a little but I do not see ich. I will see how he eats this afternoon. If I can catch him. I will put him in the tank. He may be okay. The cleaner Wrasse, goby, and other wrasse plus the 2 chromis seem okay.

I can see probable ich spots in this image, but that doesn’t account for the rapid breathing.

Skip the ich-x, despite their marketing, it doesn’t work for marine ich.

Coppersafe at 2.25 ppm works well for ich and velvet, but not flukes.

 

[Lisa Cain]

I can see probable ich spots in this image, but that doesn’t account for the rapid breathing.

Skip the ich-x, despite their marketing, it doesn’t work for marine ich.

Coppersafe at 2.25 ppm works well for ich and velvet, but not flukes.

I will get the medication for flukes.

 

[BubbleAlgaeFarmer]

I can see probable ich spots in this image, but that doesn’t account for the rapid breathing.

Skip the ich-x, despite their marketing, it doesn’t work for marine ich.

Coppersafe at 2.25 ppm works well for ich and velvet, but not flukes.

I will get the medication for flukes.

Get prazipro

 

[Lisa Cain]

When was the last time you added something to your Tank? Fish or inverts. If your Powder Tang had ich or Velvet that's still in there so you need to treat your remaining fish and Fallow the Tank. I would transfer them to a Hospital Tank for Treatment with Chelated Copper but catching them is going to be a chore. BTW, Nice looking Tank.

Thank you for saying my tank is nicelooking.

 

[Lisa Cain]

Update: The Foxface is in its hospital tank with Coppersafe, Reef Medic and Flux RX. I has to put in a small heater because the temperature was 71 degrees. The tang is swimming around aggressively and eating. I am posting a video. I was really worried about it. I still worried. Perhaps it was still because its friend the Foxface was sick. Many times I would see it sitting besides it. Reef Medics let me know what you think about the health of the blue hippo. I will keep my fingers crossed. At least now I have a sick tank and medicine. See in the last video, I am beginning to believe that the blue hippo was showing its affection for the fox face #reefmedics

 

[Euphylliaphyle]

@Reefmedics

 

[winxp_man]

I will get the medication for flukes.

As Jay stated above could be a mix of issues from that can be seen in the pic.

Prazipro or pure prazi for flukes. I personally use pure prazi. But it’s a pain to break down properly for tank use.

Ich-x I can attest to does nothing. Tried it just for the sake of trying it and did nothing.

Copper power or copper safe at 2.25 ppm min and a max of 2.50 ppm to be checked with a Hanna checker.

Don’t know about rabbit fish species being out directly into 2.25ppm copper power, but I have done it with tangs, angels (large and dwarf), butter fly fish, and clowns have yet to lose any to copper issues at direct 2.25 ppm. 2.25 is also the minimum for most fish. There are a few that still might when issues with copper even if ramped up over a a couple of days. But overall most have no issues with it.

Fallow is a must and QT.

 

[Lisa Cain]

As Jay stated above could be a mix of issues from that can be seen in the pic.

Prazipro or pure prazi for flukes. I personally use pure prazi. But it’s a pain to break down properly for tank use.

Ich-x I can attest to does nothing. Tried it just for the sake of trying it and did nothing.

Copper power or copper safe at 2.25 ppm min and a max of 2.50 ppm to be checked with a Hanna checker.

Don’t know about rabbit fish species being out directly into 2.25ppm copper power, but I have done it with tangs, angels (large and dwarf), butter fly fish, and clowns have yet to lose any to copper issues at direct 2.25 ppm. 2.25 is also the minimum for most fish. There are a few that still might when issues with copper even if ramped up over a a couple of days. But overall most have no issues with it.

Fallow is a must and QT.

The Fox Face Rabbit died ilast night n the hospital tank. I guess he was too sick.I have accepted the fact that most of my fish have been wiped out due to disease, My son has the same problem in his tank two months ago. I do not know somehow cross contamination occurred or if we used food or water that was contaminated.. All I can do now is hope for the best for the other fish. I will not introduce fish into the tank for another couple of months. I will simply work on building my reef coral component. Very frustrating because they were so beautiful. However, what can I do? I was so happy and proud on my new 120 gallon tank.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

The Fox Face Rabbit died ilast night n the hospital tank. I guess he was too sick.I have accepted the fact that most of my fish have been wiped out due to disease, My son has the same problem in his tank two months ago. I do not know somehow cross contamination occurred or if we used food or water that was contaminated.. All I can do now is hope for the best for the other fish. I will not introduce fish into the tank for another couple of months. I will simply work on building my reef coral component. Very frustrating because they were so beautiful. However, what can I do? I was so happy and proud on my new 120 gallon tank.

Sorry to hear.

We need to regroup here - what fish do you have remaining? The blue tang, some chromis and a goby? All of these fish are going to need to be treated in the hospital tank with copper and then prazi. Then, keep them out of your display for 60 days so that the infection in there dies out for lack of a host.

That said, can you tell me more about your hospital tank? The 71 degree temperature leads me to think that you just set this up? If so, what method do you have in place to manage the ammonia long term in there?

Curious - why did you add reef medic and flux Rx to your hospital tank? A number of medications cross react, and it is always best to use one drug at a time.

 

[Lisa Cain]

Thank you, all of you have helped me a lot. I am appreciative. The hospital tank is a 10-gallon aquarium with an air tube. That will not suffice for holding fish long-term. I should have thought about the cross-reaction. Was too anxious to try to keep him alive. After this experience, I see the huge value in having a smaller tank with a filter and everything else that can serve as a hospital or quarantine tank. I will need another tank to manage the other fish. I have the old empty 65-gallon Oceanview aquarium. I may have to set it back up and use that tank for 60 days.