Wrasse Spinal injury

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

My first wrasse ever was doing good first few weeks and last week seen he had spinal injury. Was doing barrel rolls and standing on its tail and swimming around and laying upside down. And today I see him getting eaten alive by hermits :( rip

Anything I can do in the future if I get a wrasse and has same injury? I hear they’re not common so I guess I’m unlucky :(

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

Seen hermits all over him for idk how long and moved them off and he swam away. Less than hour later they’re all over him again

 

[DylanE]

Seen hermits all over him for idk how long and moved them off and he swam away. Less than hour later they’re all over him again

Put it out of it’s misery

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

Put it out of it’s misery

How should I do it? Also idk if it’s dead or not now

 

[DylanE]

How should I do it? Also idk if it’s dead or not now

I’d just snip its head off with some kitchen shears since it’s barely moving. Painless.

It’s hard to know what happened, could have been caused by anything. Unfortunately, sometimes fish just don’t last once they get introduced.

 

[KrisReef]

I think there has been a trend of some wrasse (not sure which) that have been having these symptoms & death?

@Jay Hemdal (do I remenber this correctly ?)

 

[crazyfishmom]

This is a neurological issue and it tends to happen to newly introduced wrasse. It seems to be viral in nature. Sorry to hear.

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

This is a neurological issue and it tends to happen to newly introduced wrasse. It seems to be viral in nature. Sorry to hear.

Dang anyway to prevent this or spot it at the lfs? It was doing fine first few weeks. Also should I let hermits eat it up or flush?

 

[PharmrJohn]

I wouldn't let the hermits at it. I'd just dispose of it.

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

I think there has been a trend of some wrasse (not sure which) that have been having these symptoms & death?

@Jay Hemdal (do I remenber this correctly ?)

Ya I found it and am reading now , it’s UNWD (unknown neurological wrasse disease) and more common in fairy and flasher wrasse , mine was a fairy :/

Scared to buy wrasse now

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

I wouldn't let the hermits at it. I'd just dispose of it.

Thanks ya I just flushed after letting the hermits eat for a couple hour, lot of scales left on the sand I hope they eat those up

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

My first wrasse ever was doing good first few weeks and last week seen he had spinal injury. Was doing barrel rolls and standing on its tail and swimming around and laying upside down. And today I see him getting eaten alive by hermits :( rip

Anything I can do in the future if I get a wrasse and has same injury? I hear they’re not common so I guess I’m unlucky :(

Take a look at this thread and see if the symptoms are similar:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/unknown-neurological-wrasse-disease-unwd.901856/

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

Last night the wrasse dead, this morning my royal gramma looks dead just floating around the tank with its mouth wide open smh , both fish from the same lfs, all other fish from different lfs and are fine

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

:/

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

Take a look at this thread and see if the symptoms are similar:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/unknown-neurological-wrasse-disease-unwd.901856/

Thank you yes I was reading up on this thread last night and I’m pretty sure this is what killed my wrasse as it was still swimming and trying to eat while looking injured and laying on floor in a C shape

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

Found that Clown and starry blenny went down yesterday morning, this pic is from right now,
Clown looked like it had brook and idk about blenny

 

[i cant think]

Ya I found it and am reading now , it’s UNWD (unknown neurological wrasse disease) and more common in fairy and flasher wrasse , mine was a fairy :/

Scared to buy wrasse now

Honestly, over this side of the pond UNWD is uncommon in most species.
Do you have any other fish in the tank? If so what species?

The appearance of that Lubbocki is more so as if it’s been bullied and ran into a rock/lid resulting in a spinal injury.

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

Yes also had a royal gramma , starry blenny , clown , yellow watchman and Bengai cardinal, day or 2 after wrasse died the gramma died, then a week after clown and blenny died same night so now just the yellow watchman and cardinal left :/

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Yes also had a royal gramma , starry blenny , clown , yellow watchman and Bengai cardinal, day or 2 after wrasse died the gramma died, then a week after clown and blenny died same night so now just the yellow watchman and cardinal left :/

Sorry - I didn't see your post about the Gramma, just your reply to me about the UNWD. There is certainly something else going on in the tank, these other fish don't develop UNWD.

The gramma dying with its mouth open is distinctive - either gill disease or low dissolved oxygen levels. Are these fish showing any symptoms prior to their death? Does the tank have good aeration (not just circulation)?

Jay

 

[SanFernandoValleyAIOReef]

Sorry - I didn't see your post about the Gramma, just your reply to me about the UNWD. There is certainly something else going on in the tank, these other fish don't develop UNWD.

The gramma dying with its mouth open is distinctive - either gill disease or low dissolved oxygen levels. Are these fish showing any symptoms prior to their death? Does the tank have good aeration (not just circulation)?

Jay

The gramma was hiding for a week before death, the clown looked like it had brook, (whole slime hanging off its body, & im not sure about blenny. These fish also died after I added a skimmer but I’m thinking that’s just coincidence? & no extra aeration