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I don’t want my fish to get sick and I don’t want to wipe out my tank...........
But I don’t quarantine because I’m lazy
But I don’t quarantine because I’m lazy
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I’m curious as to if any of you find that using the same lfs or supplier helps?
Same for NFG?
IMO the best development we have to look forward to is captive breeding and direct sales by breeders. I think we should all support captive breeding and be willing to pay the premium.
Sorry by NFG I meant Nitrofuracin GreenCan you give me a link to what NFG realy stand for - NFZ use to be the abbervation for nitrofurazone and it is seen as a carcinogen.
Sincerely Lasse
Yes - nitrofurazone is classed as a carcinogen - at least in EU - and forbidden to use in food production. I saw the medicines at the manefactur - is not many of them you can get without a prescription here in Sweden (or EU).Our special formulation of Nitrofurazone, Sulfathiazole Sodium, Methylene Blue and sodium chloride
It will be interesting to see how things go in Canada with their new bans on medications. I knew the ban on antibiotics was coming, but I was shocked that copper is also banned.I can see a paradox here. In the EU - most of these drugs are forbidden without prescription and prophylactic treatment with these products are a bold NO-NO
In the US these wonder products are free to use and prophylactic treatment with these products are in common use.
We get the fishes from the same sources - mainly from the Pacicific, Indian ocean, Caribian and the Red Sea
You would aspect a healthier fish stock in the US compared with EU based on this - but it seems to be total opposite situation.
In the US - it is a disease catastrophe – lucky them - they have access to these wonder medicines
In the EU – we can´t access these wonder medicines – lucky us – we have healthy fishes
Or………………….
Sincerely Lasse
I live on the border with Canada and every week there are reports of drug smuggling, now I suspect I'll see more, only now it will include Fish medsIt will be interesting to see how things go in Canada with their new bans on medications. I knew the ban on antibiotics was coming, but I was shocked that copper is also banned.
I don't understand how they would develop a resistance considering they come from various sources. Unless they are all captive breed?
I guess I have the same thought about ich/copper. It doesn't make sense that it would develop a resistance to copper, when the the only place its being exposed to such high levels of copper, is in our tanks, lfs, breeding facilities, ect ect. I'd image the number of captives are a drop in the bucket relative to what's in the wild.
It seems strange to think an entire species is going to evolve based on what's being done to the few in captivity.
This is exactly what I was going to say. Respectfully, the article seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how resistance/evolution works, and/or the supply chain of fish. While there certainly could be (and likely already are) strains of diseases resistant to copper, et. al., it is unlikely that this strain would become dominant in the wild, since we aren't dosing the ocean, nor are we releasing fish treated with copper back into the ocean.
I hope I didn't give the impression that I was worried about the resistant pathogens becoming dominant in the wild, although I guess anything is possible. I don't think people intended Boa's to become dominant in the Everglades. I was only intending to discuss the potentially resistant parasites that fish would pick up as they move through the wholesale and retail chain.This is exactly what I was going to say. Respectfully, the article seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how resistance/evolution works, and/or the supply chain of fish. While there certainly could be (and likely already are) strains of diseases resistant to copper, et. al., it is unlikely that this strain would become dominant in the wild, since we aren't dosing the ocean, nor are we releasing fish treated with copper back into the ocean.
Very true, but TTM doesn't work for velvet as far as I am aware and it also doesn't help with flukes etc.TTM is very useful against ich for the reasons mentioned. It requires no chemicals and uses the well-known life cycle of the parasite as an advantage. Resistance to drugs doesn't matter and if done properly (i.e., cleanly) then the aquarist should see great results. It is more labor intensive but I fully prefer this to copper or other types of ich treatments. All of my new fish go through TTM upon arrival.