Any options for accelerated QT?

[Resilient]

I have read the protocol here and about the TTM method.

I periodically have to get a friend to watch my fish while I am out of town and I would rather not task them with dealing with fish in QT.

I can generally get around a month where I know I will be around. Would it be reasonable to split the difference and have the fish in a copper tank for 14 days, then move them to a sterile tank once, and treat with Praziquantel there?

They should be ich free and all the encrusted ich should be left behind in the copper tank right? And this would limit the stress of all the transfers of the TTM.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I have read the protocol here and about the TTM method.

I periodically have to get a friend to watch my fish while I am out of town and I would rather not task them with dealing with fish in QT.

I can generally get around a month where I know I will be around. Would it be reasonable to split the difference and have the fish in a copper tank for 14 days, then move them to a sterile tank once, and treat with Praziquantel there?

They should be ich free and all the encrusted ich should be left behind in the copper tank right? And this would limit the stress of all the transfers of the TTM.

14 days is short of a typical life cycle of protozoans which is 21-26 days. You can bump temperature to 80.5 degrees to shorten the life cycle of a parasite but with no guarantee. I dont recommend this short treatment cycle as you want to assume the fish have something and if youre going to be gone a month, fish can go extended to 35 days,,,, just have friend monitor ammonia which you would do anyway if they were in the display tank

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I have read the protocol here and about the TTM method.

I periodically have to get a friend to watch my fish while I am out of town and I would rather not task them with dealing with fish in QT.

I can generally get around a month where I know I will be around. Would it be reasonable to split the difference and have the fish in a copper tank for 14 days, then move them to a sterile tank once, and treat with Praziquantel there?

They should be ich free and all the encrusted ich should be left behind in the copper tank right? And this would limit the stress of all the transfers of the TTM.

Shortening a Q period is always risky. Our protocol works well for about 80% of the external parasites that infect marine fish. No process handles ALL possible issues, but the longer time of our process allows those issues to show up while the fish is still in the QT and not your display.

 

[CHSUB]

And this would limit the stress of all the transfers of the TTM

I not sure why people believe TTM is stressful? While it is impossible to know for sure, I catch the fish in low light while it’s barely moving with a colander and move the fish in a few seconds. Fish in general barely respond.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I not sure why people believe TTM is stressful? While it is impossible to know for sure, I catch the fish in low light while it’s barely moving with a colander and move the fish in a few seconds. Fish in general barely respond.

With a 3 day cycle, ammonia can build up surprisingly fast - 1 ppm or more.

Many TTM set ups lack lateral viewing of the fish, right at a time when observation is vitally important.

Netting and moving fish is stressful, as evidenced by the amount of trauma induced exophthalmia seen in moved fish.

TTM doesn’t work for egg laying flukes or active velvet infections.

For those reasons, I gave up using TTM back in the mid 80’s

 

[CHSUB]

With a 3 day cycle, ammonia can build up surprisingly fast - 1 ppm or more.

Many TTM set ups lack lateral viewing of the fish, right at a time when observation is vitally important.

Netting and moving fish is stressful, as evidenced by the amount of trauma induced exophthalmia seen in moved fish.

TTM doesn’t work for egg laying flukes or active velvet infections.

For those reasons, I gave up using TTM back in the mid 80’s

I’m not an expert and I defer to your expert opinion. However, I monitor ammonia and often do daily WC if necessary. I do TTM in 5 to 20 gallon glass tanks. I never use nets to catch fish, place colander below fish and lift, sometimes fish swims in colander without much effort.
Started using formalin with TTM in 2012 when, as you noted, flukes got in DT; recently switched to H2O2. Done successfully with a number approaching 100 fish with very few qt casualties.

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