Anyone using Dr. Sochting's Oxydator

rkpetersen · Sep 30, 2020

Where is a good place to buy a type A online in the US? They always seem to be out of stock.

fishybizzness · Sep 30, 2020

Ordered mine from the shrimp tank this morning and they shipped this afternoon.

BurgerFish · Sep 30, 2020

How many catalyst do I need for A Oxydator and 90g tank with 20g sump? And what peroxide should I use? 6-9-12%? And how much of it for how long?

atoll · Oct 1, 2020

BurgerFish said:
How many catalyst do I need for A Oxydator and 90g tank with 20g sump? And what peroxide should I use? 6-9-12%? And how much of it for how long?

Start with 9% and 2 catalysts. The Oxydator A holds .25ltr if all OK then tey 12% peroxide and watch your tank closely for the first half hour or so just to be sure all is OK with that strength.

Tristren · Oct 1, 2020

slojim said:
Can you elaborate? What do you see that alerts you to check your oxydator?

najer said:
Just my experience, more film algae on the glass in less time than normal alerts me to re fill mine.

atoll said:
Also If you leave it long enough the water becomes less clear or polished.

Yep, first thing is the glass. I would probably see the water being less clear but the messy glass gets in the way : )

Tony

Tristren · Oct 1, 2020

BurgerFish said:
I found 34% peroxide. How to delute it to 12 or 6%?

MnFish1 said:
Well if you dilute it 1 part peroxide (34%) - and 2 parts water/RODI - you will get 11.3333 percent (close enough to 12 in my book). If you take 1 part of the new 11.3333 percent solution and add 1 part water/RODI you will get about 6 percent

That's what I use, to get to ~12%.

Cheers, Tony

Andy Macro · Oct 7, 2020

Left the Sochting Oxidator overnight.
The water looks crisp and HD, still some tint muy much less.
pH went down to 8, instead of 8.4...
Corals don't seem sad, let's see when they wake up

atoll · Oct 7, 2020

Andy Macro said:
Left the Sochting Oxidator overnight.
The water looks crisp and HD, still some tint muy much less.
pH went down to 8, instead of 8.4...
Corals don't seem sad, let's see when they wake up

Oxydators don't directly affect PH. However, it might be as a result of organics being oxidated producing acids. If so the PH should steadily rise back to around it was before introducing the Oxydator.

Andy Macro · Oct 7, 2020

atoll said:
Oxydators don't directly affect PH. However, it might be as a result of organics being oxidated producing acids. If so the PH should steadily rise back to around it was before introducing the Oxydator.

Interesting, I wished it was more long lasting to counteract photosynthesis.

atoll · Oct 7, 2020

Andy Macro said:
Interesting, I wished it was more long lasting to counteract photosynthesis.

Can you elaborate?

Andy Macro · Oct 7, 2020

atoll said:
Can you elaborate?

My tank is macroalgae dominant and they have been consuming carbonate as a carbon source which they turn to CO2 and as a side product release -OH
I add carbonate to the tank to compensate this loss but eventually the pH rises so much it becomes a limiting factor. So to have a way to safely counteract the pH rise short of adding CO2 directly (which is delicate and expensive) would be great.

atoll · Oct 7, 2020

Andy Macro said:
My tank is macroalgae dominant and they have been consuming carbonate as a carbon source which they turn to CO2 and as a side product release -OH
I add carbonate to the tank to compensate this loss but eventually the pH rises so much it becomes a limiting factor. So to have a way to safely counteract the pH rise short of adding CO2 directly (which is delicate and expensive) would be great.

Right, I see. Well the Oxydator can't help there but then it wasn't designed to of course. Few people have a problem with PH rising too much.

BurgerFish · Oct 26, 2020

Does it provide all the same benefits that Ozone? Or just the water clarity?

atoll · Oct 26, 2020

BurgerFish said:
Does it provide all the same benefits that Ozone? Or just the water clarity?

Consider an Oxydator as a simple safe alternative to an Ozoniser doing very similar things. Redox is raised along with the oxygen level. Compounds are oxidized in a similar way.

BurgerFish · Oct 26, 2020

atoll said:
Consider an Oxydator as a simple safe alternative to an Ozoniser doing very similar things. Redox is raised along with the oxygen level. Compounds are oxidized in a similar way.

It kills the parasites like ozone?

atoll · Oct 26, 2020

BurgerFish said:
It kills the parasites like ozone?

Evidence suggests it has a negative affect on parasites like white spot similar to ozone.

fishybizzness · Oct 27, 2020

Good evening Atoll. Question, I'm currently waiting on a delivery of 12% peroxide. It is very difficult to get where I am in the Caribbean. My question is, are there any benefits with using the 3% which is very easy to get or would i just be wasting my time. I have a new size A on a 50 gallon aquarium. I apologize if this question has been asked already. Thanks for the help!

coolblueatx · Oct 27, 2020

Hi Atoll. I have been an oxydator mini in a 20g long and running 5% H2O2. I'm still haven't seen much improvement on my glass. It still get cover with algae daily. Do you recommend increasing the %? Do you think the Mini is too small?

I'm have an IM 20 peninsula and the back chamber is very small. Not sure if any other model will fit back there.

Love to get your feedback.

atoll · Oct 28, 2020

fishybizzness said:
Good evening Atoll. Question, I'm currently waiting on a delivery of 12% peroxide. It is very difficult to get where I am in the Caribbean. My question is, are there any benefits with using the 3% which is very easy to get or would i just be wasting my time. I have a new size A on a 50 gallon aquarium. I apologize if this question has been asked already. Thanks for the help!

You can offset the low % of peroxide by negating it by using more catalysts. Try 4 catalysts or even 6 but try 4 first. You will see the peroxide get used up quicker which in turn means you are getting more oxygen into the water obviously.

atoll · Oct 28, 2020

coolblueatx said:
Hi Atoll. I have been an oxydator mini in a 20g long and running 5% H2O2. I'm still haven't seen much improvement on my glass. It still get cover with algae daily. Do you recommend increasing the %? Do you think the Mini is too small?

I'm have an IM 20 peninsula and the back chamber is very small. Not sure if any other model will fit back there.

Love to get your feedback.

The model D would be better for sure. However with regards to algae growing on the glass. This can take a while before it slows down. However, you could up the % of peroxide to 9% and even 12% just ensure you watch your animals when you do for signs of a negative reaction when/if you do. Increasing the number of catalysts has a similar affect to increasing the % of peroxide. If you use one catalyst in your mini adding another will double the peroxide being released so you will need to fill it more often of course.