Bayer insecticide as a coral dip

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An FYI anyone buying from ASD live sale that's buying Sps have a good 2 month quarantine process in place before putting any Sps in your show tank.
 
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I know this is an old post, but at what point do you aclimate the coral. Doesn't seem like it would be needed if you go from lfs to bayer dip.
 

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Does bayer kill the nasties or simply stun them so that they fall off the coral?
A little bit of both or at least that has been my experience
 

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I wonder whether most of prophylactic effect of the described dipping process is simply due to removal of the base? I suspect that most nasties are removed with the base and subsequent visual inspection of the coelenterate's tissue. Do you folks see things actually fall off the dipped tissue?
 
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I wonder whether most of prophylactic effect of the described dipping process is simply due to removal of the base? I suspect that most nasties are removed with the base and subsequent visual inspection of the coelenterate's tissue. Do you folks see things actually fall off the dipped tissue?
If I see anything that looks like a bite or pest, I throw out the frag. Removing the frag plug is indeed prophylactic because it's difficult to visualize pests/eggs in nooks or crannies.

I find the dip is so opaque with Bayer that I don't really see anything in the liquid.
 

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English person here, I didn't read all 13 pages, read page 1 and skipped.
Did you find the safety data sheet for whatever the active ingredient is?

If I skipped that then sorry, I use a supermarket antibacterial fluid called Dettol, followed a similar thread to this a few years ago and then did some reading. ;)
The ridiculously small bottle of "coral dip" over here is like£10 or so, a litre bottle (about a pint) of the supermarket stuff is about £2, not used the "coral dip for years! :)

Great thread.
 

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English person here, I didn't read all 13 pages, read page 1 and skipped.
Did you find the safety data sheet for whatever the active ingredient is?

If I skipped that then sorry, I use a supermarket antibacterial fluid called Dettol, followed a similar thread to this a few years ago and then did some reading. ;)
The ridiculously small bottle of "coral dip" over here is like£10 or so, a litre bottle (about a pint) of the supermarket stuff is about £2, not used the "coral dip for years! :)

Great thread.
The two active ingredients are Cyfluthrin and Imidacloprid. In layman's terms, these are now chemically produced derivatives of a tobacco tea and chrysanthemum flower extract.....with a history here in the States of over a 100 years. A number of DIY insecticides have you make your own tobacco tea to kill bugs in your garden.

HERE is the MSDS. Note that this a a concentrate and needs to be diluted. I dilute 1 ml of Bayer for each 100 mls of tank water...typically make 300 mls for 1 to 5 frags, but others have used stronger dilutions. I had a thread going on dilutions used....when I find it, I'll edit it in here.


EDIT TO ADD

HERE is the thread on concentrations used by various forum members. Summary can be found in posts #25 and #35 on page 2.
 
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The two active ingredients are Cyfluthrin and Imidacloprid. In layman's terms, these are now chemically produced derivatives of a tobacco tea and chrysanthemum flower extract.....with a history here in the States of over a 100 years. A number of DIY insecticides have you make your own tobacco tea to kill bugs in your garden.

HERE is the MSDS. Note that this a a concentrate and needs to be diluted. I dilute 1 ml of Bayer for each 100 mls of tank water...typically make 300 mls for 1 to 5 frags, but others have used stronger dilutions. I had a thread going on dilutions used....when I find it, I'll edit it in here.


EDIT TO ADD

HERE is the thread on concentrations used by various forum members. Summary can be found in posts #25 and #35 on page 2.
I will take a look, sounds great, that is why I am trying to switch UK types to dettol. ;)
 

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Does everyone always remove the plug and reattach to new plugs or are most just dipping as you got the frags and leaving them on their existing plugs ??
 

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Does everyone always remove the plug and reattach to new plugs or are most just dipping as you got the frags and leaving them on their existing plugs ??
I remove the plug. That's prime territory for eggs to be attached.
 

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Agree with @ritter6788 . But the other reason you remove the plug (unless it's plastic), is because any dip will absorb into the plug and then slowly release into your tank. So re-glue to a fresh plug or rock or directly into your tank.
 
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