Captive bred tang species?

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Is anyone aware of any species of tang that are captive bred aside from yellow tangs? While I would love a yellow, they won’t fit in a 65g long term. All my fish in that tank so far are captive bred and I’d really prefer to keep it that way. Even if buying a specific species won’t significantly impact the ocean, I’d still prefer to not take an animal out of its natural habitat for my entertainment. My dream tang is a white tail bristletooth but I haven’t found anywhere selling them captive bred. As long as it’s not thousands of dollars, I don’t mind paying extra to protect the ocean.
 

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I’d probably take a yellow over a white tail even in a 65g based on temperament alone. The captives will likely not grow too large to the max listed size. My wild one has been with me so long and is no where near the max size.

Still, you are right that a yellow shouldn’t spend the next 30 years in a 65g.

My yellow worked well in my 80g, my Kole did not. A mean little ****!

While there are other tangs being bred, they are bigger than the yellow. Blue hippos, convict, etc.

Tomini is probably most ideal but not captive bred.

A dwarf angel is probably better suited and many of those are captive bred.
 
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There’s no other captive bred tangs that could fit in a 65 gal.

If you want something besides a yellow you have to get wildcaught.
When you say no other, do you mean I could fit a yellow in a 65 for roughly 5-10 years before eventually upgrading tanks again like we all tend to do? Because if that’s the case I’ll go with the yellow ofc, but I don’t wanna make him uncomfortable at all. I’m not totally familiar with the growth rate of tangs so for all I know he’ll reach full size way before that mark, but if he’ll be under 6 inches until then I might consider it.
 

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When you say no other, do you mean I could fit a yellow in a 65 for roughly 5-10 years before eventually upgrading tanks again like we all tend to do?
yes. Ive seen plenty of people have yellow tangs is 65 gals long term, the biggest yellow tang I’ve seen was like 6 inches and that’s rare. they would obviously be more comfortable in something bigger but one would be fine in a 65 gal.
 

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Is anyone aware of any species of tang that are captive bred aside from yellow tangs? While I would love a yellow, they won’t fit in a 65g long term. All my fish in that tank so far are captive bred and I’d really prefer to keep it that way. Even if buying a specific species won’t significantly impact the ocean, I’d still prefer to not take an animal out of its natural habitat for my entertainment. My dream tang is a white tail bristletooth but I haven’t found anywhere selling them captive bred. As long as it’s not thousands of dollars, I don’t mind paying extra to protect the ocean.
Blue hippo tangs (Paracanthurus hepatus) are sometimes captive bred as well, but, yeah, no other aquacultured tang would fit a 65.
 

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When you say no other, do you mean I could fit a yellow in a 65 for roughly 5-10 years before eventually upgrading tanks again like we all tend to do? Because if that’s the case I’ll go with the yellow ofc, but I don’t wanna make him uncomfortable at all. I’m not totally familiar with the growth rate of tangs so for all I know he’ll reach full size way before that mark, but if he’ll be under 6 inches until then I might consider it.
I bought a biota captive bred yellow and he’s a dick.

In 6 months he’s gone from 1.5” to roughly 3.5-4”.

He was my first fish in the tank as he was so incredibly small and I didn’t want to pass up the opportunity to nab him.

But I will say it was a mistake. If I did it all over again I would not get him first and that seems to be the biggest problem I’ve had thus far.

Definitely add the tangs absolutely last.
 

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This is not a recommendation and the fish are not captive bred but you can get yellows that are. I keep a yellow and a two spot bristle tooth in a 36x22x22" tank. It is my most peaceful tank. The only other fish are an electric blue damsel and a sixline. I think the key is the rock work and heavy feeding. A hungry fish is an aggressive fish.
I have other tanks that I can move fish to if this hadn't worked out.
This is how they act all day. I've never even seen a tail swipe.
Appologies for the long video.

 

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Aquacultured purple tangs are also available but usually more aggressive than yellows.
 

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Is anyone aware of any species of tang that are captive bred aside from yellow tangs? While I would love a yellow, they won’t fit in a 65g long term. All my fish in that tank so far are captive bred and I’d really prefer to keep it that way. Even if buying a specific species won’t significantly impact the ocean, I’d still prefer to not take an animal out of its natural habitat for my entertainment. My dream tang is a white tail bristletooth but I haven’t found anywhere selling them captive bred. As long as it’s not thousands of dollars, I don’t mind paying extra to protect the ocean.
Following. I'm still tweaking my beginner fish stocking order list. Yellow and Blue Hippo on my list since they are both captive-bred. Looking for the 3rd tang to round out the tang gang (120 gallon, 6 ft long) of different body shape and maybe smaller. Also disappointed to learn whitetail bristletooth not yet captive-bread.
 

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Following. I'm still tweaking my beginner fish stocking order list. Yellow and Blue Hippo on my list since they are both captive-bred. Looking for the 3rd tang to round out the tang gang (120 gallon, 6 ft long) of different body shape and maybe smaller. Also disappointed to learn whitetail bristletooth not yet captive-bread.
you won't find a dfferent shaped Tang for your requirements.

If you are set on a third tang, i would try to introduce a same body shaped Tang but pull out all the tricks. Mirror, Acclimation box, and I've even seen a floating dummy Tang being sold that did a great job
 

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When you say no other, do you mean I could fit a yellow in a 65 for roughly 5-10 years before eventually upgrading tanks again like we all tend to do? Because if that’s the case I’ll go with the yellow ofc, but I don’t wanna make him uncomfortable at all. I’m not totally familiar with the growth rate of tangs so for all I know he’ll reach full size way before that mark, but if he’ll be under 6 inches until then I might consider it.

I have a theory about this idea that fish only grow to the size of their environment.

Fish I don't think are that smart. But if you underfeed them, they don't grow. They also are probably not healthy, and likely are aggressive.

I only have my own environment as a test bed of sorts - See, I will readily admit my failure here, I assumed that many of us have day jobs, and that fish could be fed once a day.... I start reading responses from #fishmedics and see that often people are under feeding.

I got an auto feeder, and I now feed 3x a day. Prior to that any fish growth I had was small, and most or all of my fish were skinny.

Now: Sailfin has easily doubled in size. Blue Hippo is looking more hippo like (nice and fat). All three yellows are growing and coloring up nicely (Biota aquacultered). Tomini clearly getting bigger, gold flake angel definitely bigger. Lawn mower blenny? Fat like a sausage. The dwarf flame angel is the only one I cannot tell if it is growing, and it is a rather shy fish, so I don't see it all the time.
 

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you won't find a dfferent shaped Tang for your requirements.

If you are set on a third tang, i would try to introduce a same body shaped Tang but pull out all the tricks. Mirror, Acclimation box, and I've even seen a floating dummy Tang being sold that did a great job
Thanks for the response! Only seeing this now for some reason. Question: So I'm actually not dead set on a 3rd tang. I'd be fine with just 2 (blue hippo & yellow) except all the advice says we need an odd number to distribute aggression. Can I just keep to the two? If 3rd is needed, I'll take your tips with mirror, box, etc. Hilarious about he floating dummy tang!
 

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Thanks for the response! Only seeing this now for some reason. Question: So I'm actually not dead set on a 3rd tang. I'd be fine with just 2 (blue hippo & yellow) except all the advice says we need an odd number to distribute aggression. Can I just keep to the two? If 3rd is needed, I'll take your tips with mirror, box, etc. Hilarious about he floating dummy tang!
I had a blue hippo and sailfin for months w/o issue. I do not think you need to add a third.

I've since added 3 yellows and a tomini - I had to increase feedings, the sailfin got mad for a couple days, but things settled down.
 

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Thanks for the response! Only seeing this now for some reason. Question: So I'm actually not dead set on a 3rd tang. I'd be fine with just 2 (blue hippo & yellow) except all the advice says we need an odd number to distribute aggression. Can I just keep to the two? If 3rd is needed, I'll take your tips with mirror, box, etc. Hilarious about he floating dummy tang!
I had a blue hippo and sailfin for months w/o issue. I do not think you need to add a third.

I've since added 3 yellows and a tomini - I had to increase feedings, the sailfin got mad for a couple days, but things settled down.
Good to know! More yellows sounds cool.
 

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