Dinoflagellates my experience......h2o2 reefing tool!!!!!

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  1. NanaReefer

    NanaReefer Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    Today I started H2O2 treatment to help battle an issue I've been having with my SB. For the past year and a half its been plagued with what's believed to be Diatoms.
    Unable to find the exact cause by process of elimination it was suggested to me that there may actually be several culprits to blame at once.
    So I've lowered the intensity of my led's. Blues from 65% max to 50% max. Whites stay the same @10% max. I also raised the lights themselves.
    I have also started dosing H2O2 @1mil per 10g for 8 days. However I screwed up! I dosed 10mil per 10g thus dosed 43mil. My corals are not happy. Zoas, Stylo, BN and blasto's were all closed up. But several hours later are looking better. I've prepared 5g new mix and will do WC in the a.m.
    I'll post back later with results of H2O2 treatment.
    Please see thread, CaribSea Arag-Live Fiji Pink Substrate for further info on the issue I've been having.
     
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    I started dosing 5 days ago and I see no change. Going to give it a couple more days then give up.
     
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    NanaReefer Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    The suggested treatment time is 8 days. So give it at least 3 more days. It may take a bit longer. Tanks differ.
     
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    Has anyone seen any correlation between Dino's and biopellet use?
     
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    Update: my 6+ year old Candy Cane is looking horrible. Pinched up tight and sloughing mucus. I'm stopping the h2o2 treatment until it hopefully recovers.
    Nor are my Zoas looking very happy
     
  6. maksim serebro

    maksim serebro Well-Known Member

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    When people are doind the 3 day black out what happens to the fish? Do they still eat. Mine get very freaked out if lights go out and stop eating.
     
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    NanaReefer Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    Fish will be just fine. Just continue feeding smaller portions. They definitely will not starve within 3 days.
     
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    What is this algae and how do I get rid of it. I added gfo a month ago, my tds has been 0 from the beginning, im practically starving my fish. Haven't done much water changes.. would that help if I did them more? It's all over my rock too. I attached a picture of my sump if you need to see that.

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    Started a 1ml per 10 gallon dose tonight to combat Dino's and hopefully nuke a small amount of briopsis as well. I added with the lights out. My sand bed is covered about mid day and is on the live rock as well. I will post my results each day over a 10 day period if anyone is interested. I also get the brown stringy algae on my glass after 2 days. It's pretty annoying. Well wish me luck!
     
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    Thinking of dosing my tank with this. Do I need to turn off my GFO, carbon, and ATS?
     
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    Russ265 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    just carbon imo.
     
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    Just to add on...

    This treatment is not good for corals...won't kill them, but it is stressful.

    Don't exceed the dose and don't exceed the treatment period. Neither of those will make it work better against dinos, but it will make it more stressful on your corals.
     
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    It also kills Cleaner Shrimp in any strength
     
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    Does this also apply to pistol shrimp?
     
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    don_chuwish Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    Never hurt my candy striped pistols
     
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    Never hurt my peppermint or blood shrimp either.
     
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    I dosed 2 ml/10 gallons without any visible ill effects to sps or my skunk cleaner. Only threat to the cleaner is my yellow tang if the cleaner gets a little too frisky. The tang gobbles his antennae, lol!
     
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    My Pistol is fine Did I not say Cleaner Shrimp? For whatever reason these Shrimp alone are very sensitive to h2o2. So far I'm the 6th person I've come across who've lost their Cleaners while dosing it.
     
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    Part of the issue is the lack of generally available food-grade h2o2....it doesn't last in storage (which means you'd never know what potency you're dosing) so nobody carries it.

    The alternative is h2o2 with an "industrially anonymized" stabilizer - some of which are sorta nasty.

    This is what your grocer and pharmacy carry more than likely - and what your shrimp won't love.

    Worth repeating: Don't overdose compared to the recipe and don't run the treatment longer than the recipe - since that doesn't help with dinos, but makes the dose more toxic to other critters. YMMV, but you're counting a bit on luck unless you have fresh, food-grade h2o2 at your disposal.
     
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