Dinoflagellates my experience......h2o2 reefing tool!!!!!

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  1. mcarroll

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    I think when targeting green algae they say it's effect is most intense during rapid photosynthesis tho.

    That's typically something like the hour or two before and after peak sun hours.

    Since we're ostensibly playing on the same mechanism I'd think the same should be true for dino's, at least to some extent. There was a link earlier in the thread that talked about this (re: green algae) if anyone else happens to recall better.
     

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    image.jpeg image.jpeg On day 3 of h202 dosing for cyano and it's working miracles. I was doing manual removals for a bit but came back strong as could be next day. After started the h202 dosing I have done one manual removal since and things looking waaaaaay better. Using 3%otc at 1ml/10gal dosing daily.
     
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    Thanks I'll try it cause I'm about to rip my hair out, my question is I'm going to set up a new 40 gallon and put new sand and new water in the tank is it possible to transfer corals and rock without introducing the stuff into the new tank
     
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    The dinoflagellates will tag along with any corals. Well anything with a surface. These guys are nasty!
     
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    Can I dip all my corals before putting them in the new tank or no?
     
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    Hey man I have heard mixed reviews on this actually working some people are telling me that it will not eliminate Dinoflagellates at all, just wondering if you blacked out your tank for a while when dosing
     
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    I "think" I had the same problem. Did it look like this? Please, some insight would be great.
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    This stuff was driving me crazy. I first had a bad ha an bubble problem. I installed a biopellet reactor it wiped out the ha and about decimated the bubble. However this off white slimy stuff took over. The glass and rock was covered with it an agressive blast would send bitts into a huge cloud. Clog up a big filter sock in no time. I thought it could of been a biofilm from overdoing the biopellets? Any way the old tank started leaking so the setup was completely torn down. I have the rock cooking since July 4th. Do You Folks think this will kill it? Should I treat it while in the barrels maybe? Sorry for jumping in here but I'm about desperate get rid of this stuff. Thanks !
     
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    Be careful. H2o2 kills it all. Even the good stuff.
     
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    Subscribing.
     
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    I ended up buying 2 products made by a scientist named Dr. Tim. Waste away and Re-fresh. I'll send you a picture. If you read my post you know my story. Your sounds identical. Is so late the harmful air fresheners and any other possible sources of VOC in the air. Make sure your lids are closed

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    Im happy to say I've been dinoflagellate free for a almost a week. I've had them since almost the tanks start. Not sure how I got them . Possibly because I transferred all of my live stock from a temporary 10 gallon . I had major chaeto die off maybe due to low nutrients . Together with an improperly cycled tank maybe this caused perfect conditions for Dinos to thrive .

    I attempted the hydrogen peroxide dosing method and blackout only to lose coral and brittle stars and who knows what else microfauna . Dinos disappeared for a day and still came back

    Finally for the past month or so i shortened the light cycle in my DT and ran my sump light 24 hours. I dumped skimate back into the sump fed like crazy anything to make other algea flourish. I also added a handful of a caulerpa to the refugiun. In time the sump was overrun with algea and the Dinos were mostly in the sump. Just this weekend I trimmed out crazy amounts of caulerpa . . Hair algea began to develop . And Dinos have faded away completely from the entire system . Even ran without my curve 5 bubble Magnus skimmer for a bit. I'm not sure how my system has balanced out but I sure hope Dinos remain gone long term. Have patches of hair algea in display tank but turbos are making quick work of it. Corals are now recovering and really starting to show growth.

    What I've found that sucks about Dinos is that what may work for some may not work for others and that they truly do suck

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    I'm on day 2 of dosing h2o2 in my tank that had a huge breakout of dinos while cycling. I have no idea how it could've possibly gotten into the tank other than the live rock I got. This tank has been kind of a curse since I got it, but I'm going to keep on keeping on!
     
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    Word on the street is dinos are in every tank. Conditions make them thrive.
     
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    Word on the street is wrong buddy.

    No different to importing briopsis in to your tank.

    Most likely came in on rock. It's a protist. Bloody stubborn hard as hell to kill, highly unlikely to be killed without extreme measures.
    To put it into context, it has survived all the mass extinctions. Guess hence the name Dino. If fat *** rocks from space can't extinguish it. That H202 is like laughing gas to most species.

    You might be lucky.and get a weedy strain...but i don't do luck.

    Black outs only get rid of it visibly. It disperses. Youre in fact doing it service. At night it (or during black out) it breaks away from the snot like substance and goes on the mooch. To inhabit other areas. Only to reform during nice lighting.
     
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    I apologize if it's been covered, but has anyone tried Vibrant or the bleach method for getting rid of these? Im just curious.
     
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    With my bleach method I am still free of dinoflagellates :)
     
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    You mean the h2o2?
     
  19. Tomisue

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    I noticed one reason might have been microbacter7. I had a bit of dinoflagellates for awhile, then tried microbacter7 and now my tank is covered in Dino's. Tried Chemipure. Helped but it's coming back on day two. Just added Vibrant.
     
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    When you added hydrogen peroxide, was it regular peroxide from Walmart kind or? And what was the exact dose again? Your post first says 1 ml per 10 gals, the .5 Per gallon. Probably a typo but I want to be sure...
     
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