Ecotech Radion G6?

[blaxsun]

Glad you're happy with the Red Sea lights because behind the scenes, they are one of the most hated lights out there with loads of issues that get swept under the rug (like most things Red Sea makes.)

Let's not turn this into an EcoTech vs. Red Sea vs. etc. discussion. I have a Red Sea tank and use several Red Sea products (not the LEDs) that have all been great, so let's just agree that YMMV.

 

[swirlygig]

Any more photos out there? Blue vs Pro?

 

[SunnyX]

Great video here by Dmitry (Treasure Corals)

 

[blaxsun]

Great video here by Dmitry (Treasure Corals)

I think this sums it up best: "Evolutionary - not Revolutionary".

 

[Nonya]

There are 2 physical lenses. One is attached to the led diode.

Yes, that's how LEDs are manufactured, at least the LED emitters used in reef lighting (UV maybe no so much). Without primary lenses, the emitter is exposed to the salt air, dust, etc. Primary lenses produce a net gain in light and make LEDs more efficient. None of the emitters used in reef lighting are purpose built for the companies who use them. If they were, there would be no reason to use secondary lenses, because the primaries would be manufactured to meet the needs of the Ecotech's lights.

The second is the big plastic removable one.

Secondary lenses refocus the light from the diode and primary lens into a new beam. This is not a new concept.

After watching Jake's "detailed" assessment, it's clear that he knows little about LED emitters. He's overly-impressed at the size of the emitters, and seems to think the size and appearance of emitters is somehow meaningful when it comes to function. It was good for a laugh, though.

 

[Sean Clark]

This is one of the reasons why I choose to purchase my LED lights from a company that actually makes their own LEDs and specializes in lighting and also have a fantastic track record of doing those things.

 

[Nonya]

There's at least a dozen points of misinformation and lack of context in this.

Can you point them out, please?

We'll just go with one of them though... How do you know Ecotech didn't test the 395nm diodes with their plastic? How do you know they didn't change the plastic to accommodate the UV? Or like with the AI lights, they don't allow you to overdrive them?

How can you say that with certaainty?

Way too many assumptions and emotions to make a good case for either light here.

So we see.

Glad you're happy with the Red Sea lights because behind the scenes, they are one of the most hated lights out there with loads of issues that get swept under the rug (like most things Red Sea makes.)

So using your approach to the discussion, how do you know "they are one of the most hated lights out there with loads of issues that get swept under the rug (like most things Red Sea makes)"? I thought there are "Way too many assumptions and emotions to make a good case for either light here."

 

[Nonya]

Any more photos out there? Blue vs Pro?

I doubt the photos would be a good representation of how it appears to your eyes without filters or digital enhancements.

 

[Nonya]

This is one of the reasons why I choose to purchase my LED lights from a company that actually makes their own LEDs and specializes in lighting and also have a fantastic track record of doing those things.

Who might that be?

 

[Sean Clark]

Who might that be?

Kessil via DiCon Fiberoptics.

Kessil LED Lights

Kessil designs and manufactures advanced LED lighting products for the horticulture, aquarium and algae industries.Kessil is leading The Spectral Revolution.

kessil.com

 

[Nonya]

Kessil via DiCon Fiberoptics.

Kessil LED Lights

Kessil designs and manufactures advanced LED lighting products for the horticulture, aquarium and algae industries.Kessil is leading The Spectral Revolution.

kessil.com

Ahh. I wonder if they'll work on a design to reduce shadowing.

 

[Sean Clark]

Ahh. I wonder if they'll work on a design to reduce shadowing.

No need because shadows are not your enemies. Buy the way, good way to deflect from my position.
#ShadowsForReefTanks
#BlanketsAreBad

 

[Nonya]

No need because shadow are not your enemies. Buy good way to deflect from my position.
#ShadowsForReefTanks
#BlanketsAreBad

The current trend is to move away from spotlighting. Some say too much shimmer. Another reason would be to increase heat transfer and LED lifespans by spreading the heat sources out.

 

[Nonya]

No need because shadow are not your enemies. Buy the way, good way to deflect from my position.
#ShadowsForReefTanks
#BlanketsAreBad

Designing and building your own LEDs may have advantages, but until someone comes up with the magic spectrum and intensity for mixed reef tanks, I doubt there will ever be a "best" light.

 

[blaxsun]

The current trend is to move away from spotlighting. Some say too much shimmer.

It really depends - it's like trying to tell someone what speaker sounds best.

 

[Sean Clark]

The current trend is to move away from spotlighting. Some say too much shimmer. Another reason would be to increase heat transfer and LED lifespans by spreading the heat sources out.

I do not subscribe to trends. I stick with what works. Again sticking with the people that actually make the stuff. Phillips is another excellent example.

 

[Nonya]

It really depends - it's like trying to tell someone what speaker sounds best.

It's called marketing. They create a demand by telling reefers they're wrong, but look, here's a new model that's the "best".

 

[Sean Clark]

It's called marketing. They create a demand by telling reefers they're wrong, but look, here's a new model that's the "best".

Exactly. It is marketing.

 

[blaxsun]

It's called marketing. They create a demand by telling reefers they're wrong, but look, here's a new model that's the "best".

Yes, I'm familiar with the concept.
To quote a summary from a video I just watched "evolutionary - not revolutionary". I'm happy with my G5 Radions.

 

[Nonya]

I do not subscribe to trends. I stick with what works. Again sticking with the people that actually make the stuff. Phillips is another excellent example.

I hoarded Radion Gen 3 Pros at a huge discount when they were considered "old". I've got them spaced closer than the original recommendation and now have beautiful corals at a fraction of the cost of the current generations. I go with what works. The newer stuff is pretty unproven at this point. I go with what's proven to work well (and is a LOT less expensive).