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Warning- this is a long read!

Soooooo, I really wanted to start a saltwater tank and do it the right way. I researched, watched a few dozen videos, researched some more, saved a few dollars, watched more videos on how to get started and then made the mistake of going into a business and letting them talk me into “getting started right away” and not understanding what they had me starting.
I had originally planned a nano set up with an all in one system ( I think I said that right) but decided I didn’t want to spend that much up front just in case this wasn’t for me ( it still might not be for me, but I don’t give up easy!) so I got a 20 gallon long aquarium, a 30 gallon HOB filter with skimmer combo (I forgot the brand- it was horrible) some live sand (carribsea Fiji pink because well, I didn’t know any better) some Instant Ocean in the purple bag and a mini wave maker.
When I went into the not so local store to just look around, the owner convinced me that an under gravel filter with crushed coral was a better choice and he would even give me some “good bacteria” to add so I could add my fish and my anemone right away. So, He sold me the stuff and a light (Phlizon PH-A40 discussed here on R2R “Budget Lighting”) and then the disappointment began. The anemone died because the foot was cut when he removed it from the rock it was on, then I realized I needed a bigger tank! So I upgraded and used the 20 long for a sand sifter he sold me with the crushed coral (that was honestly my bad- it’s a sand sifter for crying out loud) and a few other sand happy individual creatures I acquired. Then I learned about the importance of water flow, not over feeding, not running bright lights all day etc. The amount of mistakes I have made would take an eternity to read. I come to you all for help before I continue to make unnecessary mistakes moving forward.
I currently have a 40 gallon (breeder I believe) with an under gravel filter and a Fluval ac 110 with an over population of amphipods. 2 clownfish, 2 firefish,a bartlett’s anthias (I think), a yellow watchman goby, a lawnmower blenny, a ruby dragonet, a skunk cleaner shrimp, Mexican turbo, a few blue leg hermits and 3 bubble tip anemone are all of the inhabitants of the 40 gal.
I have reduced feeding and lighting. I also try to remove as many of the large ones as I can using a long pipette (they really creep me out so it’s not a fun thing to do) I see all of the fish eating them when the lights are off.
Here is where the questions start.

I want to add a possum wrasse, but am concerned it may harass or hurt my skunk cleaner shrimp. Could this work out?

The under gravel filter seemed to be ok in the beginning, but now I wonder is there a way to clean under the filter without ruining the tank? I feel like lifting that plate with be worse than just leaving it be.

Is the crushed coral a horrible idea?

Which test kit/instrument is best for monitoring nutrient levels?

Exactly which nutrients am I testing to keep my current inhabitants healthy?

If I add coral what will I be testing for then?

Which wave maker with multi directional flow do you recommend?

Which brand of reef salt do you recommend?

I have googled all of my questions, but I feel like here I can get more because everyone reefs differently and I can get more in depth answers and help. The owner of both of the lfs here where I live come across like they are irritated if you ask to many questions or just too busy. I went there for help with the amphipods and they sold me a Red Sea cucumber (a hotdog or something) it didn’t like the crushed coral so now I have 5 running aquariums at the moment, (that’s a whole other topic 🤣 ) and am making this harder than it needs to be I believe. I just want to get the abundance of creepy things out and go back to enjoying my tank(s).
Thank you for reading.
All answers and advice are appreciated.

I already know I am doing this thread wrong, so please be nice lol, I torture myself enough 🤣

Salinity 1.025
Temp 77.8
According to 7 in 1 test strip results.
Nitrate 0
Nitrite 0
PH 7.6
KH 40
GH 100

Separate Ammonia test 0

Crushed coral is 1 year old
40 Gallon has been running 7 months
I have no recent pictures due to an extended ugly phase shame.
 

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Welcome to your new home for saltwater reef aquarium resources and fun! Welcome to the family! :D
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I want to add a possum wrasse, but am concerned it may harass or hurt my skunk cleaner shrimp. Could this work out?

The under gravel filter seemed to be ok in the beginning, but now I wonder is there a way to clean under the filter without ruining the tank? I feel like lifting that plate with be worse than just leaving it be.

Is the crushed coral a horrible idea?
I can answer a couple of those now. I have 2 Possum wrasses and some shrimp. They all have been living in my tank over 10 years and just ignore each other.



I also have been running an undergravel filter for 50 years, but I run it in reverse. If you don't, as you found out, it is a huge problem. I would clean under it, then run it in reverse very slow.

PS, don't tell anyone about the UG filter because they will all laugh at you. They don't laugh at me because of that 50 year thing, but for the first 45 years, they did. 😀
 

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You need to get your nitrate up...around 5-10 max. Zero is not good. What is the phosphate level? Do not use API test kits. The only API test kit I used was for ammonia check when I was setting up my live rock. Salifert test kits are good to use
 

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Welcome to R2R. 🙂

It would be beneficial to create a Tank Tread to document your questions and concerns, and post images.
Congratulations on making it this far with your tank. It's definitely a hobby of patience with a large learning curve.

With regard to the undergravel filter, in today's hobby you do not see them used often in the SW hobby any longer. Undergravel filters are effective and work well for some hobbyist.

If you would like opinions on removing the undergravel filter (very easily done), or maintenance and tips using a undergravel filter consider creating a thread in the equipment forum section.
 
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I can answer a couple of those now. I have 2 Possum wrasses and some shrimp. They all have been living in my tank over 10 years and just ignore each other.



I also have been running an undergravel filter for 50 years, but I run it in reverse. If you don't, as you found out, it is a huge problem. I would clean under it, then run it in reverse very slow.

PS, don't tell anyone about the UG filter because they will all laugh at you. They don't laugh at me because of that 50 year thing, but for the first 45 years, they did. 😀
I have heard some opinions about the UGF lol. Well, now I have to watch an excessive amount of videos to build the fake confidence to take this apart and start over. Then overthink if I should do it right away or if I can find a house and move first. But after I do the tear down and figure out how to safely reverse the flow, will I have totally wiped out the pod population?
 
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You need to get your nitrate up...around 5-10 max. Zero is not good. What is the phosphate level? Do not use API test kits. The only API test kit I used was for ammonia check when I was setting up my live rock. Salifert test kits are good to use
Don’t attack me for this…. I don’t know the phosphate levels.
I took the advice from the wrong person. They sold me test strips that were sufficient in what I needed to be testing, or so they said. I have googled what to test, how to test and what test to use and get so many different answers I decided to come here and try before I overwhelm myself further. I have been looking at different kits and some Hanna instruments… but I don’t want to waste anymore money on stuff I don’t need and invest in the stuff I actually do need. The strips don’t have phosphate or ammonia on them. I have a separate test for ammonia which is the API ammonia test.
I will look into the Salifert kits. 😊
 
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Welcome to R2R. 🙂

It would be beneficial to create a Tank Tread to document your questions and concerns, and post images.
Congratulations on making it this far with your tank. It's definitely a hobby of patience with a large learning curve.

With regard to the undergravel filter, in today's hobby you do not see them used often in the SW hobby any longer. Undergravel filters are effective and work well for some hobbyist.

If you would like opinions on removing the undergravel filter (very easily done), or maintenance and tips using a undergravel filter consider creating a thread in the equipment forum section.
Thank you 😊
I will get that thread started soon. I have a larger tank (70 Gal) I want to eventually move the 40 into, so all advice will help that not be another tanktastrophe.
I would love some tips on cleaning under the UGF for right now, so I will go get that thread started today! It’s water change day today, so I should have some advice by next water change day.
Thank you again 😊
 
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You need to get your nitrate up...around 5-10 max. Zero is not good. What is the phosphate level? Do not use API test kits. The only API test kit I used was for ammonia check when I was setting up my live rock. Salifert test kits are good to use
I meant to ask in the last reply, how would I gradually increase the nitrates?
 

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Ok so you do not have any coral yet. Correct? Send us some pictures of tank and set up
Oh, I had a few frags. Spoiler alert 🚨 they didn’t make it. I don’t intend on buying more coral until I got this all figured out a little more. I will take a few pictures when I get home. It’s not pretty yet 🤣
 
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You need to get your nitrate up...around 5-10 max. Zero is not good. What is the phosphate level? Do not use API test kits. The only API test kit I used was for ammonia check when I was setting up my live rock. Salifert test kits are good to use
Are these tests all that I would need?
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I would get the NO3 and the PO4. I don't think you need the Ammonia (since your tank has fish in it). When you get corals you will need KH, and Ca tests. But wait on those until you get the corals.
 

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