How to Quarantine

[Crashjack]

Thanks for the info., guys and gals! Is there any downside to treating with both medications at the same time-- GC/CP or GC/copper?

I like the idea of using both medications at the same tome to end my quarantine a little earlier (still 30 days under treatment minimum, but not 40+ days). I figure that since I'll be using copper only for fish sensitive to CP, I'll always run 30 days with CP or copper. If I run into a problem where a fish stops eating after a couple of weeks of treatment, I'll just put them in a sterilized tank and observe the rest of the way.

 

[Congaken]

Thanks for the info., guys and gals! Is there any downside to treating with both medications at the same time-- GC/CP or GC/copper?

I like the idea of using both medications at the same tome to end my quarantine a little earlier (still 30 days under treatment minimum, but not 40+ days). I figure that since I'll be using copper only for fish sensitive to CP, I'll always run 30 days with CP or copper. If I run into a problem where a fish stops eating after a couple of weeks of treatment, I'll just put them in a sterilized tank and observe the rest of the way.

I may be mistaken, but I think more fish are sensitive to copper than CP...my understanding is that there are very few side effects as opposed to copper...

 

[Brew12]

I may be mistaken, but I think more fish are sensitive to copper than CP...my understanding is that there are very few side effects as opposed to copper...

Wrasses and Anthias seem to not do well with CP. But you are correct, most other fish tend to do better in CP than copper.

 

[Crashjack]

Exactly... also hippo tangs.

 

[Smo]

+1 The only tweak you wanna make with GC is instead of repeating dosage after 48 hours (as per the directions); do the second dose 5-7 days after the first.

Is that a new change? I thought the guidance was two doses per the GC directions followed by another pair of doses 5-7 days later, total of 4 doses?

 

[melypr1985]

Is that a new change? I thought the guidance was two doses per the GC directions followed by another pair of doses 5-7 days later, total of 4 doses?

No, it's always been just the two doses.

 

[litenyaup]

Following

 

[Humblefish]

No, it's always been just the two doses.

+1

 

[Smo]

No, it's always been just the two doses.

+1

Here is the source of my confusion. Perhaps the medications-to-keep-on-hand thread needs to be updated.

API General Cure - Praziquantel and metronidazole mix, but in powder form. 2 courses of treatment, or 4 doses in total, must be used spaced 7 days apart.

 

[Humblefish]

Here is the source of my confusion. Perhaps the medications-to-keep-on-hand thread needs to be updated.

I'll fix that. Sorry for any confusion.

 

[Smo]

No apologies please. I have learned a tremendous amount from reading your posts. Just wanted to be sure my note taking is correct.

 

[Cflip]

I used Dr Tims in my QT due to my DT being in Fallow. I spoke with Dr Tim and he suggested to add glass marbles to the tank stating that the bacteria adheres better to glass. Not sure how that differs from all the glass of the tank but went with it.

 

[Humblefish]

I used Dr Tims in my QT due to my DT being in Fallow. I spoke with Dr Tim and he suggested to add glass marbles to the tank stating that the bacteria adheres better to glass. Not sure how that differs from all the glass of the tank but went with it.

Interesting. I wonder if glass marbles could be used as bio-media in a HOB or canister? Probably packs too tight to allow proper water flow.

 

[Brew12]

I find that curious. Glass doesn't have very much surface area.....

 

[Smo]

I find that curious. Glass doesn't have very much surface area.....

Except when it comes time to clean the inside surfaces of our DTs.

 

[Crashjack]

I find that curious. Glass doesn't have very much surface area.....

Yeah, I made homemade wine for years and if I remember correctly, one of the reasons glass carboys are used in winemaking is because plastic is easier for bacteria to adhere to. Glass marbles were also used to fill the void in carboys, pushing the wine to the top to eliminate air.

 

[Humblefish]

Yeah, I made homemade wine for years and if I remember correctly, one of the reasons glass carboys are used in winemaking is because plastic is easier for bacteria to adhere to. Glass marbles were also used to fill the void in carboys, pushing the wine to the top to eliminate air.

I know plastic will more easily absorb medications than glass. Which is why I prefer to use a glass pyrex bowl (with sand) in QT for sand sifters.

 

[Brew12]

I don't doubt that the bacteria will adhere to the glass just fine. There is a reason that biological media and higher quality live rock is porous. More surface area means more space for bacteria to grow. I'm not seeing glass marbles having enough surface area.

 

[lactose]

I don't doubt that the bacteria will adhere to the glass just fine. There is a reason that biological media and higher quality live rock is porous. More surface area means more space for bacteria to grow. I'm not seeing glass marbles having enough surface area.

Could it be the recommendation because it was for his qt tank?

 

[Crashjack]

I know plastic will more easily absorb medications than glass. Which is why I prefer to use a glass pyrex bowl (with sand) in QT for sand sifters.

Have you ever tested to see how much effect plastic might have? I'm planning to use Sterilite containers as my QT tanks. They are cheap, which is great, but with my physical handicap they will be soooo much easier to setup, take down, sanitize, etc. Plus, they already have lids. I'm less worried about copper because I can test for that. Maybe I should start with a little higher dose of CP when quarantining with CP?