Lobo with hole in skeloton and creature inside

[Goaway]

Yeah i did think maybe some kind of pod next to it possible but do pods have 4 or possibly 6 feelers but more likely 4

I was thinking it was living with a bristle cage worm. The feelers look exactly like one.

 

[ying yang]

I think unless it comes out hole and shows itself,the only other way is to cut skeloton and physically pull it out

 

[Goaway]

I think unless it comes out hole and shows itself,the only other way is to cut skeloton and physically pull it out

I don't think you need too. I really don't think any of these guys are problematic.

When I had a gallon crab in my trachyphyllia I just used a VERY sharp and pointy tweezer to remove it. Came out very easily

I don't believe he needs to remove it, I guess he could.

 

[Goaway]

I guess they are a problem if they reproduce. As they start nesting in the corals tissue.

 

[PeterB113]

I don't think you need too. I really don't think any of these guys are problematic.

I don't believe he needs to remove it, I guess he could.

I removed it from my trachyphyllia because the tissue was receding on my coral once I removed it it was back to normal. And I agree if it's not causing problems then leave it be. In my case it was aggravating my coral so I took it out.

 

[ying yang]

I think as go on holiday in few days.best thing is do nothing as the lobo still looks in very good condition and nice and fluffed/puffed up ( whichever term is used,as i know different characteristics and ways of describing blasto"s/acans/favia's/lobo's etc.
Im guessing this is actually a lobo as this what the guy at lfs said it was but he not a coral expert he told me on previous visit

Edit: also trachs and i not quite mastered difference between them all ha ha

 

[Goaway]

Try not to think about it on vacation. Hopefully, everything goes well, and you can kick back, relax and enjoy family time as well

I need to stop adding corals, so I can relax.

 

[ying yang]

Try not to think about it on vacation. Hopefully, everything goes well, and you can kick back, relax and enjoy family time as well

I need to stop adding corals, so I can relax.

Yeah will definately be enjoying holiday as been 2 years since last holiday abroad due to covid this is 3rd time amended same holiday and had to finally change destination only 4 days ago lol so 3 times changed/ postponed plus booked 2 other holidays on top of this but ended up getting full refund on both as thought this stupid covid be over in 6 months max then thought a year and now wouldnt like to guess but we slowly getting back to normal and having full attendance at football matches so if let 40-80000 people in stadium must be getting better right ^_^

Ok thanks all for all help/imput.i will leave this thread as it is unless lobo goes downhill then will give update.if dont then all going good ^_^

 

[ying yang]

I would think the cbb and wrasse would be eating those things.

One last thing as just seen this,the cleaner wrasse continually annoys 3 fish all day long,and 2 of them are the wrasse and cbb and other cb ( the 3 biggest fish for slime coat and dead skin and possible parasites if they eat or not in a tank idk) so i sometimes think to get rid of the blue streaked wrasse to let the other fish do the job i got them for.
For most parts they let cleaner fish clean them but sometimes dart off or turn on cleaner lol

 

[Goaway]

One last thing as just seen this,the cleaner wrasse continually annoys 3 fish all day long,and 2 of them are the wrasse and cbb and other cb ( the 3 biggest fish for slime coat and dead skin and possible parasites if they eat or not in a tank idk) so i sometimes think to get rid of the blue streaked wrasse to let the other fish do the job i got them for.
For most parts they let cleaner fish clean them but sometimes dart off or turn on cleaner lol

Take pics of the wrasses head, make sure it's not an imposter. Also, their main food source comes from fish. Very likely to harass small group of fish vs a large group.

 

[ying yang]

Take pics of the wrasses head, make sure it's not an imposter. Also, their main food source comes from fish. Very likely to harass small group of fish vs a large group.

Yeah already checked before and when buying its got straight forward mouth rather than underslung mouth and not a mimic cleaner wrasse,( think called fang toothed blenny or something,which now i write that doesnt sound correct name lol)
But spent like 30 minutes in lfs trying my hardest to take pictures of the fish but also with mouth open so that was fun and lfs workers walking past me laughing saying it defo a blue streaked cleaner wrasse we always check but i like to be certain myself ha ha

Edit: i got 9 fish at momentin my 80 gallon dt plus extra water in sump.but worked it out i can have 10 fish and possibility of adding a specialised pest eater if ever got certain kind of pest then keep in sump or qt/hospital tank or sump or give back to lfs after done its job.my dt is very tall compared to most imo so limits my choice of fish.i got....
2 clowns.
Ywg +pistol
Tail spot blennie
Silver belly wrasse
Bi colour blennie
Coral beauty
Coppernand butterfly
And the cleaner wrasse.
All bought as juveniles so will grow except maybe cbb as it is quite large so the cleaner mainly goes for 3 biggest but occasionally tail spot but will add foxface soon so hopefully he lets him clean him and with what you and others have said foxfaces are cowards and scaredy pants so may just freeze and let cleaner just clean him even if didnt want him to lol

 

[Kaboobie]

This gall crab conclusion seems way off base. The physical features simply do not line up with the available photographs of what I find when looking up Cryptochiridae or "Gall Crabs" they are much more crab like with none of the elongated body or antennae seen in your video of either creature. I am sticking to my prior assertion that these are most likely some form of amphipod rather than a crablike arthropod species as is being suggested in prior comments. However I would not start hacking away at the coral; instead I would promote observation or if you can't stand to take the risk and want them gone dip the coral and save the specimens so we can see them better in video and photos to try to identify them.

 

[Goaway]

foxfaces are cowards and scaredy pants

They like a lot of fish swimming around. And someone they can swim with. I do not know why. I am sure there is a reason out there. I have seen several videos of foxes taking cover by another fish. Mine isn't the only one. ;Hilarious

 

[ying yang]

This gall crab conclusion seems way off base. The physical features simply do not line up with the available photographs of what I find when looking up Cryptochiridae or "Gall Crabs" they are much more crab like with none of the elongated body or antennae seen in your video of either creature. I am sticking to my prior assertion that these are most likely some form of amphipod rather than a crablike arthropod species as is being suggested in prior comments. However I would not start hacking away at the coral; instead I would promote observation or if you can't stand to take the risk and want them gone dip the coral and save the specimens so we can see them better in video and photos to try to identify them.

Yeah just going keep eye on lobo till go on holiday in few days and then see how it is when get back and go from there.if its still doing ok then will just leave alone

 

[Goaway]

Here second video with close up zoomed in of hole 8- 10 mm high amd 2- 3 mm left to right and with tentacles and manibles doing there thing lol


One more video to share shortly when it allows me

@ 1:52-2:00 we have the big reveal. I do not believe it to be an amphipod at all. I will explain why. I have to over emphasize the creature.

If you watch the last 8 seconds of the video, it has some weird appendage. I do not know what it is. It moves out of the tunnel a little and adjusts. I have seen plenty of amphipods, and never seen one with a design like that. Unless you know of one. If there was just 4 antenna. i would say amphipod. But the middle appendage, doesn't make sense to me.

Doesn't make sense to be a gull crab either.


And a picture of burrowed amphipods to compare.


Edit: Shrimp also have a snout type thing. Which I don't know any shrimp that small.

 

[Goaway]

Watching this on the phone, maybe I'll get better clarity.

I still wouldn't worry about this though. I am just fighting for a possitive id here. If it is an amphipod or any kind of pod, which some kind of pod is most likely.

 

[Goaway]

Look at this video and see if the movement is similar to the guy in the cubby.


Edit: I watched video 2 probably 15x nows from 00:55-1:03 to where you adjusted. I don't know what to make of the leg - arm - mandible movement with the quick movement it makes leaving the hole and dashing back in around :58-1:01mark. If you blink, you miss it. I wish the video was a bit more clear.

Don't worry about it for now.

 

[ying yang]

@ 1:52-2:00 we have the big reveal. I do not believe it to be an amphipod at all. I will explain why. I have to over emphasize the creature.

If you watch the last 8 seconds of the video, it has some weird appendage. I do not know what it is. It moves out of the tunnel a little and adjusts. I have seen plenty of amphipods, and never seen one with a design like that. Unless you know of one. If there was just 4 antenna. i would say amphipod. But the middle appendage, doesn't make sense to me.

Doesn't make sense to be a gull crab either.


And a picture of burrowed amphipods to compare.


Edit: Shrimp also have a snout type thing. Which I don't know any shrimp that small.

Hi sorry only just seen this.just watched last seconds of video you re-posted above and cant really see nothing in that picture.
But what i remember of it is was biggest critter in that hole by far and in centre where you drew that 5th apendage,all i remember is mandibles.i will re-watch some of the earlier videos.
But what i know from nature ( which is limited lol) and observing it for hours each night last few nights is that predators or filter feeders wait at edge of holes like this.
In the big hole im unsure but the 2 holes to the right where one of the spider looking/acting critter finally came out of hole ( ones with the 2 bright white markings) i think there either filter feeding with maybe adapted long antenna/tentacles or wgen occasionally they dart out hole for a mili second,maybe they grabbing small particles of food and that critter that came out rockwork had quite a few long antenna/tentacles just like the critter in the big hole and him in big hole seems to have white on head as it briefly showed its head in one of videos so think its same just larger ,coming to this conclusion as no harm seems to have come to the lobo as of yet so think they just calling inside the skeloton there home.
Been doing lots research on pods/ spider/pod looking critters as just curious person so would like to know ^_^ and one article on what reefers generally class pods as infact are not pods and name begins with a " p" and the sea spiders whether it be large ones in artcic seas or just few mm big,coral dips are off no use ( whether it mine some kind of sea spider idk and probably never will ,just adds to the diversity of my reef tank so all good until harm on any livestock starts happenning i guess

 

[Goaway]

Been doing lots research on pods/ spider/pod looking critters as just curious person so would like to know ^_^

This is why I love hitch hikers. You are doing every thing right. OBSERVE and enjoy watching the live rock. It will tell you who needs to go. A very good habit to form. If their diet changes, you will catch it and know when to intervene, get involved. The lobo looks good. They will help keep things clean.

 

[ying yang]

Look at this video and see if the movement is similar to the guy in the cubby.


Edit: I watched video 2 probably 15x nows from 00:55-1:03 to where you adjusted. I don't know what to make of the leg - arm - mandible movement with the quick movement it makes leaving the hole and dashing back in around :58-1:01mark. If you blink, you miss it. I wish the video was a bit more clear.

Don't worry about it for now.

Pretty sure not like this