Looking for affordable lights

Discussion in 'Aquarium Lighting By Dana Riddle' started by Will Perry, Mar 1, 2018.

  1. Will Perry

    Will Perry Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2018
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    97
    So, I am just now getting back into the hobby after being out for several years. I have a 42 gallon Oceanic Hex I just recently inherited and I am wanting to grow a little bit of everything. Definitely wanting some zoas, palys, and mushrooms/ricordea on the bottom, some LPS and SPS (SPS can be on top if needed). I am trying to be as cost effective as possible without skimping too much on the necessities (lights/filtration). The sand bed for the tank will be around 18-20" in depth. I would love to get a Kessil a160we or a360we, but they may be just *slightly* out of my price range right this moment, at least new with gooseneck/controller. Thanks in advance for any help!

    P.s. I've already checked craigslist... and there is a single Kessil a160we there, but the guy is not messaging me back. Any alternatives are greatly appreciated.
     

  2. saltyfilmfolks

    saltyfilmfolks Lights! Camera! Reef! R2R Supporter Reef Squad Leader Photo of the Month Award R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2014
    Messages:
    27,116
    Likes Received:
    29,623
    Location:
    California
    How deep is the tank?
    What’s your magic $$ number ?

    THe black boxes are the no frills go to.65-99 ramping and timers at 150-250. SBreeflight is the upgrade for the B.B. IMO with the warranty.

    I do have a couple of kessil koolaide friends who may have seen some 360s for sale too.
    @crabs_mcjones and Freddie @GoVols

    I think reefqueen had a SB ramping (like mine) for a decent price in the sales section.
     
    reeferfoxx, tdileo, DSC reef and 3 others like this.
  3. Will Perry

    Will Perry Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2018
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    97
    Okay... so what is "ramping?" And my magic number is 150-200 maxish. I would not mind finding a used Kessil, as stated. There is one on craigslist for $225 local with gooseneck and controller... I talked the guy down to $200 and then he stopped messaging me after we "sealed the deal." Very strange, really.

    The sand bed will be about 19-20" down. Also, I don't mind buying cheap light timers. :D Just trying to do this cheaply. I remember when you were not getting away with LED under like 300-400 and that was DIY. SOOO glad that there are now super affordable options around. :)
     
    saltyfilmfolks and Crabs Mcjones like this.
  4. Crabs Mcjones

    Crabs Mcjones Millepora Maniac Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Partner Member 2019 R2R Secret Santa Reef Tank 365 Build Thread Contributor Article Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2017
    Messages:
    14,150
    Likes Received:
    48,258
    Location:
    Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
    I haven't seen any kessils pop up on the for sale forum lately. But I'll agree with @saltyfilmfolks the SB lights are a great priced light that will grow anything you put under it. Otherwise brand new kessils are on sale right now for $349 on bulk reef supply. Im a little bias in my opinion but nothing beats a good kessil :)
     
    bif24701 and saltyfilmfolks like this.
  5. Will Perry

    Will Perry Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2018
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    97
    saltyfilmfolks and Crabs Mcjones like this.
  6. Crabs Mcjones

    Crabs Mcjones Millepora Maniac Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Partner Member 2019 R2R Secret Santa Reef Tank 365 Build Thread Contributor Article Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2017
    Messages:
    14,150
    Likes Received:
    48,258
    Location:
    Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
  7. Will Perry

    Will Perry Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2018
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    97
    Honestly, I am in agreement with you about the Kessils. There is just something about the beautiful shimmer that they produce. Of course, I feel that this light is just a temporary cheap starter... I may buy this SB and then upgrade to a Kessil sometime later (maybe a year from now, at most). After this, I can use the the SB to setup a frag or quarantine tank. :)

    So the link I provided should work to grow anything in this tank?
     
    saltyfilmfolks and Crabs Mcjones like this.
  8. Will Perry

    Will Perry Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2018
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    97
    So, what make the timer so special??
     
    Crabs Mcjones and saltyfilmfolks like this.
  9. Crabs Mcjones

    Crabs Mcjones Millepora Maniac Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Partner Member 2019 R2R Secret Santa Reef Tank 365 Build Thread Contributor Article Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2017
    Messages:
    14,150
    Likes Received:
    48,258
    Location:
    Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
    Yes sir, it'll grow anything you put under it. @saltyfilmfolks has had great success with these lights
     
    GoVols and saltyfilmfolks like this.
  10. saltyfilmfolks

    saltyfilmfolks Lights! Camera! Reef! R2R Supporter Reef Squad Leader Photo of the Month Award R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2014
    Messages:
    27,116
    Likes Received:
    29,623
    Location:
    California
    Ramping is a dimmer , slowly increasing intensity.
    Bells and whistles.
     
    GoVols, Will Perry and Crabs Mcjones like this.
  11. Crabs Mcjones

    Crabs Mcjones Millepora Maniac Staff Member Team R2R R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Partner Member 2019 R2R Secret Santa Reef Tank 365 Build Thread Contributor Article Contributor

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2017
    Messages:
    14,150
    Likes Received:
    48,258
    Location:
    Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
    The timer basically will turn the lights on and off for you. Whereas the basic needs to be manually adjusted and manually turned on and off.
     
    GoVols likes this.
  12. saltyfilmfolks

    saltyfilmfolks Lights! Camera! Reef! R2R Supporter Reef Squad Leader Photo of the Month Award R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2014
    Messages:
    27,116
    Likes Received:
    29,623
    Location:
    California
    Maybe
    C0E21199-58AF-4C5B-91B3-701810653F2A.jpeg


    It’s actuall really too much power for the tank. Thank goodness for the dimmer.

    The basic SB is like 130 I belive.
     
    Will Perry and Crabs Mcjones like this.
  13. Bpb

    Bpb Valuable Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2014
    Messages:
    1,168
    Likes Received:
    1,033
    Location:
    Texas
    I’d opt for a sun blaster 4 bulb t5ho fixture with ati bulbs for the cheapest light that will grow sps well.
     
  14. GoVols

    GoVols Cobb-Webb 1989 R2R Supporter Reef Squad Leader MTRCMember R2R Excellence Award Partner Member 2019 Reef Tank 365 Build Thread Contributor Article Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2016
    Messages:
    8,308
    Likes Received:
    19,677
    Location:
    In-The-Boro, TN
    The used Kessil's that I've seen are just priced too high and are selling without the Spectra controllers.

    (lol)
    Kessil making a lot on money for the Kessil shimmer :)

    I've noticed one thing since Kessil added the Kessil logic. Yes, It keeps your corals healthy, but with the limited color spectrum that comes with the Kessil logic. I can no longer hold some of the LPS colors like I used too.
    Does that :rolleyes: make since?

    Freddie
     
  15. Will Perry

    Will Perry Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2018
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    97
    Gotcha. So ramping allows you to slowly add intensity like a real sunrise/sunset. You're talking about creating a more natural light cycle. I like that. :D
     
  16. Will Perry

    Will Perry Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2018
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    97
    Kind of leaning LED for the power costs. :) Also, I don't enjoy replacing my bulbs year after year. Call me new fashioned. :p
     
  17. Will Perry

    Will Perry Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2018
    Messages:
    80
    Likes Received:
    97
    Absolutely. So, are the Kessils just Blue and White LED, then? So much better to have full sprectrum. That shimmer, though!
     
  18. saltyfilmfolks

    saltyfilmfolks Lights! Camera! Reef! R2R Supporter Reef Squad Leader Photo of the Month Award R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2014
    Messages:
    27,116
    Likes Received:
    29,623
    Location:
    California
  19. GoVols

    GoVols Cobb-Webb 1989 R2R Supporter Reef Squad Leader MTRCMember R2R Excellence Award Partner Member 2019 Reef Tank 365 Build Thread Contributor Article Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2016
    Messages:
    8,308
    Likes Received:
    19,677
    Location:
    In-The-Boro, TN
    Yeah,
    The shimmer is great.

    But, I can't get the wide color spectrum that I used to with the ole a350w. The 360's replaced the 350's and that's when the Kessil logic was added.

    Either way I'm happy. Running an a80/t5 Hybird and my light hunting days along gone :)
     
    Will Perry and Crabs Mcjones like this.
  20. saltyfilmfolks

    saltyfilmfolks Lights! Camera! Reef! R2R Supporter Reef Squad Leader Photo of the Month Award R2R Excellence Award Build Thread Contributor

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2014
    Messages:
    27,116
    Likes Received:
    29,623
    Location:
    California
    @crabs_mcjones , it’s actully a bit hard to search the for sale.
    No way to key word or search in just that forum.


    Or I’m a Luddite.
     
    Crabs Mcjones and GoVols like this.
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
Loading...