Neptune programming

[Mjrenz]

I need some help editing my programming. I have a ups connected to my apex and I have a whole house generator. The generator automatically starts and restores power within 2 to 3 minutes. I currently have everything except my return pump set to shut off when I lose power but I want to add a delay so everything except my heater stays on for at least 5 minutes on the ups before turning off. If the generator doesn't restore power within 5 minutes that would mean there is a problem with it and I'd want to conserve battery power for the return pump as long as I can. I read through the timers article but I'm having trouble understanding how to add the "defer" line to get it to do what I want. Attached is a screenshot of the programming I have for my lights.

One other issue I'm having is when I originally set my apex up to turn everything except the return pump off and tested it, it worked perfectly. When my power goes out now the return pump is also shutting off until my generator restores power. I'm hoping to get some insight as to why that is happening, I've attached a screenshot of my return pump programming also

 

[Tangdora]

Side note, Should range bound your heater command . Or put on and off defers in it. That coding would case excessive outlet switching at 80 degrees if temps hang around at that level.


As for your power command Move your if power command to a virtual outlet. and put the defer command in that. You can not add it to your main outlet otherwise all your commands will become deferred. Afterward add the vo in place of the “if power”

Vo name (delays outlet from coming on for 5 mins after power is tripped.

Set off
If power apex off 000 then on
Defer 005:00 then on

Main outlet last line
If power state VO Name on then off


As for your pump remove the if power if you don’t want it turning off during an outage.

 

[Mjrenz]

Side note, Should range bound your heater command . Or put on and off defers in it. That coding would case excessive outlet switching at 80 degrees if temps hang around at that level.


As for your power command Move your if power command to a virtual outlet. and put the defer command in that. You can not add it to your main outlet otherwise all your commands will become deferred. Afterward add the vo in place of the “if power”

Vo name (delays outlet from coming on for 5 mins after power is tripped.

Set off
If power apex off 000 then on
Defer 005:00 then on

Main outlet last line
If power state VO Name on then off


As for your pump remove the if power if you don’t want it turning off during an outage.

Thank you for the suggestions, I will try that. I did realize that I attached the wrong screenshot for my return pump, this is the correct one and I don't have the power of line on it but it's still shutting off when my power goes out. I'll try the virtual outlet and test it to see if that fixes it

 

[Tangdora]

Thank you for the suggestions, I will try that. I did realize that I attached the wrong screenshot for my return pump, this is the correct one and I don't have the power of line on it but it's still shutting off when my power goes out. I'll try the virtual outlet and test it to see if that fixes it

Don’t have backup but I believe you still need the if power command in your pump to tell it to turn on in an outage rather than off

If power apex off 000 then on

 

[Mjrenz]

Don’t have backup but I believe you still need the if power command in your pump to tell it to turn on in an outage rather than off

If power apex off 000 then on

I figured out why my return pump is shutting off, there's a problem with my energy bar and it's not producing any power on the aquabus ports. As soon as I unplug the power adapter from the base unit all the Neptune lights go out and the outlets turn off even with the energy bar still plugged in

 

[areefer01]

Wanted to ask for clarification.

The Apex head unit is using the 12VDC. It is not plugged into any battery backup or smart circuit, correct? Surge protection is fine. Just head unit, 12VDC, to outlet.

EB832 is attached to battery backup.

If so, if power can now be used to managed high power utilization devices.

 

[Mjrenz]

Wanted to ask for clarification.

The Apex head unit is using the 12VDC. It is not plugged into any battery backup or smart circuit, correct? Surge protection is fine. Just head unit, 12VDC, to outlet.

EB832 is attached to battery backup.

If so, if power can now be used to managed high power utilization devices.

That's correct. Plugging the head unit into an outlet without battery backup let's it know when the power is out. It looks like I have power on the aquabus when the head unit has power but as soon as I unplug it the aquabus power drops out completely and everything shuts down

 

[TokenReefer]

That's correct. Plugging the head unit into an outlet without battery backup let's it know when the power is out. It looks like I have power on the aquabus when the head unit has power but as soon as I unplug it the aquabus power drops out completely and everything shuts down

Bad power adapter?

 

[areefer01]

That's correct. Plugging the head unit into an outlet without battery backup let's it know when the power is out. It looks like I have power on the aquabus when the head unit has power but as soon as I unplug it the aquabus power drops out completely and everything shuts down

Thanks. You have the power monitor enabled, checked, correct? It is in an odd place. Misc setup, lower right, under Power. Should be Monitor and Reboot. Check monitor and the feature will work properly.

Please ignore me if you have this set already.

 

[Mjrenz]

Bad power adapter?

The problem is in the eb832, I'm thinking it's the 12v power supply. I just ordered another one, I'm planning on swapping it out and fixing the one I have so I have a backup

 

[Mjrenz]

Thanks. You have the power monitor enabled, checked, correct? It is in an odd place. Misc setup, lower right, under Power. Should be Monitor and Reboot. Check monitor and the feature will work properly.

Please ignore me if you have this set already.

I do, thank you!

 

[BZOFIQ]

Here is what I believe is a much better approach.

Instead of using APEX's built in port for power sensing, use a 120V AC relay to let APEX know when power is out on a certain circuit (via your I/O pins). You can also monitor multiple circuits this way but that's a story for later.

Connect the APEX's 12V to a power supply that's fed from a battery backup so its always on and stable.

If you use the built in 12V for sensing and your power goes out what powers your APEX to make decision for you?

Here is that AC relay you'll need.

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[Mjrenz]

Here is what I believe is a much better approach.

Instead of using APEX's built in port for power sensing, use a 120V AC relay to let APEX know when power is out on a certain circuit (via your I/O pins). You can also monitor multiple circuits this way but that's a story for later.

Connect the APEX's 12V to a power supply that's fed from a battery backup so its always on and stable.

If you use the built in 12V for sensing and your power goes out what powers your APEX to make decision for you?

Here is that AC relay you'll need.

Control your world with an IoT power switch. Reliable and easy-to-use. Ships now. Free Trial!

Free Trial. Just $19.95!

www.digital-loggers.com

I appreciate it, I'll check that out