(Not so) long distance ATO inplementation

[Jasper05]

I don't think my situation is terribly complicated, but I'm new so you have to explain things to me like I am 5. I am putting [my first] tank in the basement. I wanted to put an ATO under my stand, but the size wont be very beneficial. So I have a new idea. I have an adjoining unfinished hall on the other side of the wall. It's about a 12 foot run.

My one concern is that the tubing is going across electronics, but the tubing itself shouldn't leak and I should be able to mount the wires and surge protector.

So my question is what is the best way to do this? And what equipment is recommended?

In the pictures, the tank is going where the "kitchen" is. The second picture is the space on the other side.

EDIT: the tank will be a 40 breeder

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[AZMSGT]

Seriously, you have a great set up. Put all the equipment in the empty space. Put some nice neat clean holes in the wall to feed tubing and piping through.

Typically, that empty space behind the wall is referred to as a fish room.

 

[homer1475]

Tunze 3152 will push your water that far without issues.

 

[reefwiser]

The best way is to use a peristaltic pump. A good dosing pump will be able to push water that distance. Don't get a chap pump as their pump heads will wear out fast pushing water that distance. A ghl doser with a long cable for the switch is needed. The cable for the switch is ps/2 keyboard cable.https://www.cablewholesale.com/products/keyboard-mice-cable/din-6-keyboard-cables/product-10m2-01210.php
I have used this system for many years as my aquarium is in my living room with everything out in the garage. Tried a Tunze ATO but the pump didn't last long pushing that much head pressure.

 

[Jasper05]

Seriously, you have a great set up. Put all the equipment in the empty space. Put some nice neat clean holes in the wall to feed tubing and piping through.

Typically, that empty space behind the wall is referred to as a fish room.

Are you suggesting to put the sump there as well? My concern is that the "finsished" part of the basement gets as cold as 59-60 in the winter. I have to imagine the other part gets a bit colder. Also, its a 4 foot wide space. Is that too tight?

 

[Jasper05]

The best way is to use a peristaltic pump. A good dosing pump will be able to push water that distance. Don't get a chap pump as their pump heads will wear out fast pushing water that distance. A ghl doser with a long cable for the switch is needed. The cable for the switch is ps/2 keyboard cable.https://www.cablewholesale.com/products/keyboard-mice-cable/din-6-keyboard-cables/product-10m2-01210.php
I have used this system for many years as my aquarium is in my living room with everything out in the garage. Tried a Tunze ATO but the pump didn't last long pushing that much head pressure.

With the Tunze, were you trying to go up vertically? This will be horizontal, maybe even a downward slope. I was looking at the tunze thinking it would work. I'll investigate what you sent me, thanks

 

[Jasper05]

With the Tunze, were you trying to go up vertically? This will be horizontal, maybe even a downward slope. I was looking at the tunze thinking it would work. I'll investigate what you sent me, thanks

Do you use the maxi? Maybe the 2.1 would be ok because its not a big tank, but Id be worried to wear out the pump. What's nice is I can also add a slave unit in the future for AWC

 

[Jasper05]

Are you suggesting to put the sump there as well? My concern is that the "finsished" part of the basement gets as cold as 59-60 in the winter. I have to imagine the other part gets a bit colder. Also, its a 4 foot wide space. Is that too tight?

So I did some thinking... I put a thermometer in the "fish room". It was actually warmer. Right when I thought I had everything figured out! I am probably going to start a new thread about this.

 

[reefwiser]

I was going horiznal I have a two car garage so everything is out there. Tank didn’t have a sump. But the run was 20 feet. The pump on a Tunze is a weak spot. On tanks I use it with I always keep a spare pump.
I use a GHL doser it was a 2. But the 2.1 is the same I have several of those two.
The Maxi is better for auto water changes as it is a much larger pump.

 

[Jasper05]

I was going horiznal I have a two car garage so everything is out there. Tank didn’t have a sump. But the run was 20 feet. The pump on a Tunze is a weak spot. On tanks I use it with I always keep a spare pump.
I use a GHL doser it was a 2. But the 2.1 is the same I have several of those two.
The Maxi is better for auto water changes as it is a much larger pump.

Ok thanks for the info. It's considerably more than the tunze, but I dont want failure either

 

[Uncle99]

I just wanted to understand what “not very beneficial” means, are you talking about size?
I just put a 5G tall plastic garbage can in my stand on my 60g and it keeps enough water for 15 days.
I didnt want to go bigger just in case something goes wrong and floods my living room.
I love to keep things tight and simple....sorry just another option if it’s worth anything...good luck.

 

[Jasper05]

I just wanted to understand what “not very beneficial” means, are you talking about size?
I just put a 5G tall plastic garbage can in my stand on my 60g and it keeps enough water for 15 days.
I didnt want to go bigger just in case something goes wrong and floods my living room.
I love to keep things tight and simple....sorry just another option if it’s worth anything...good luck.

If I can find a container my dimensions, maybe 3 gallons at the most. And I am not paying for a custom container. Ive read a 40 breeder goes through 5 g/ week give or take. Im surprised 5 gallons lasts you that long. I really don't want to refill my ATO multiple times a week. Defeats the purpose for me. I'd love to go 3 weeks or so..1x a month would be great.