PPBlimpy's S1000 downsize / upgrade

[PPBlimpy]

I have been pondering the idea of a frag tank to the left of my main display. Was looking for a red sea 170 or 200 with white stand, preferably a leaker, that I could cut apart, shorten to 12" and rebuild adding eurobracing etc. then plumb into my system.

The stand would match and sit right again my current stand. Think it would look slick. Playing with the tank last night and I am getting tired of the extension sump on the s1000. crappy design, flow sucks, no surface agitation etc.

The extension housing is approx the size of a 170- 21.4" x 17.3 x 15.94. I am not thinking to find just the stank. may or may not be to easy. and remove the extension housing from under my tank and use it as a dedicated frag tank. or just build my own stand and find a white door from redsea or just make one. probably easier to make one.

This would give me more room in the cabinet for controllers etc also.

Just putting thoughts down somewhere.

 

[PPBlimpy]

Reading more about this Reeflo pump. Things a beast, power hungry and way overkill for the skimmer I want to build. I will still look into rebuilding and making sure it works but will probably go sit on the shelf. Maybe one day I will set up a tank big enough to utilize a skimmer that size

 

[That Crusso Kid]

Picked up some tester corals from a couple local club members.

Going to see how they do, working on rescaping and water change this weekend.

Birdnest, elkhorn, purple stylo, Frammer.
I don’t remember the rest.

I know you've been in and out of the hobby for a while. I see Tonga branch rock. Is that real or the fake stuff they started making in recent years?

Anyone familiar with Reeflo external needle wheel pumps?
Had this piece of ancient history donated yesterday to the DIy PVC skimmer build

Haven’t tried it yet. Will pull it apart, clean and order a rebuild kit. A bigger Venturi may have to be designed since the one I just made is sized more for the Jebao 12000lph needle wheel

I am familiar with the Reeflo pumps. That one is built really well and before Reeflo started having issues. However, I just saw your last post and you're up to speed on the pump.

I am interested to see how that Venturi works with that size inlet holes you have on it. Hurry up and get the thing built already. Quit messing around. We're all waiting!

 

[That Crusso Kid]

I have been pondering the idea of a frag tank to the left of my main display. Was looking for a red sea 170 or 200 with white stand, preferably a leaker, that I could cut apart, shorten to 12" and rebuild adding eurobracing etc. then plumb into my system.

The stand would match and sit right again my current stand. Think it would look slick. Playing with the tank last night and I am getting tired of the extension sump on the s1000. crappy design, flow sucks, no surface agitation etc.

The extension housing is approx the size of a 170- 21.4" x 17.3 x 15.94. I am not thinking to find just the stank. may or may not be to easy. and remove the extension housing from under my tank and use it as a dedicated frag tank. or just build my own stand and find a white door from redsea or just make one. probably easier to make one.

This would give me more room in the cabinet for controllers etc also.

Just putting thoughts down somewhere.

Good thoughts, here, on picking up a leaker for cheap. Pass on the RS stand and make your own. This will give you better options on how to set it up. Plus, it won't be a piece of crap.

 

[PPBlimpy]

Good thoughts, here, on picking up a leaker for cheap. Pass on the RS stand and make your own. This will give you better options on how to set it up. Plus, it won't be a piece of crap.

yea, will probably do that, build my own. If one falls in my lap I will grab it. I just missed a white redsea 200 stand local for $50. no tank.

 

[PPBlimpy]

I know you've been in and out of the hobby for a while. I see Tonga branch rock. Is that real or the fake stuff they started making in recent years?


I am familiar with the Reeflo pumps. That one is built really well and before Reeflo started having issues. However, I just saw your last post and you're up to speed on the pump.

I am interested to see how that Venturi works with that size inlet holes you have on it. Hurry up and get the thing built already. Quit messing around. We're all waiting!

I have the plumbing parts on order I will need- 1.5" bspp to 1.5" pvc adapter. so I can plumb the pump without trying to used a 1.5" npt and having it leak. When it gets here I will drop the whole thing into my mixing station and see how it performs. I may go ahead and print 2 more venturis before that. this first one has 4 x .125 diameter orifices. I will do another with 4x .187 and thinking maybe one with 6 x .100

i don't have a good way to measure the air flow unfortunately

 

[PPBlimpy]

I need more time and a bunch more money.....I have a couple other things I want to implement on this system. nothing to expensive. I have a hard time not tinkering on stuff.

 

[That Crusso Kid]

Ok, first things first; you never answered my question about the Tonga rock.

I have the plumbing parts on order I will need- 1.5" bspp to 1.5" pvc adapter. so I can plumb the pump without trying to used a 1.5" npt and having it leak. When it gets here I will drop the whole thing into my mixing station and see how it performs. I may go ahead and print 2 more venturis before that. this first one has 4 x .125 diameter orifices. I will do another with 4x .187 and thinking maybe one with 6 x .100

i don't have a good way to measure the air flow unfortunately

If I were a betting man, I would bet that the 6 x .100 is going to be the winner.

One way to measure airflow is to put each printed in your lips and suck. You want to suck them individually, not all at the same time. Well, I mean, you could suck them all at the same time but it won't be useful in providing the airflow measurement you're looking to know. Anyways, after sucking on each valve, whichever one lets the most air in is the one with the most flow.

 

[PPBlimpy]

Ok, first things first; you never answered my question about the Tonga rock.


If I were a betting man, I would bet that the 6 x .100 is going to be the winner.

One way to measure airflow is to put each printed in your lips and suck. You want to suck them individually, not all at the same time. Well, I mean, you could suck them all at the same time but it won't be useful in providing the airflow measurement you're looking to know. Anyways, after sucking on each valve, whichever one lets the most air in is the one with the most flow.

I missed the Tonga rock.

That’s real Tonga. Got it with my 300g I bought. Tank was taken down in 2014 by the PO and stored. Had been set up in 2010. I Specificly asked about the Tonga when I saw it.

For a while I had it setup in my 13.5 as a mostly Tonga scape.

When I took that tank down I tossed it in here. Still haven’t figured out how I plan to rescape this tank or incorporate the Tonga.

In the 13.5 I had though about just adding zoas to the Tonga and growing a zoa garden tree looking things

 

[That Crusso Kid]

Tank was taken down in 2014 by the PO and stored.

How did you get your parole officer to take your tank down and store it? You must have been following him around, at some point, and got some pretty compromising pictures.

 

[PPBlimpy]

How did you get your parole officer to take your tank down and store it? You must have been following him around, at some point, and got some pretty compromising pictures.

Haha previous owner, make me type it all out

 

[That Crusso Kid]

Haha previous owner, make me type it all out

Yeah, that totally makes more sense now. I can't seem to get my PO to do anything for me. That's why I was confused.

 

[PPBlimpy]

Couple more pieces for my DIY skimmer showed up. Got two, for input and output. To split things nicely.

Still waiting on the 1.5” bspp to 1.5” pipe. Need to check shipping. Once that shows up I could test the pump/venturi

 

[PPBlimpy]

50g water change yesterday. Waterchage stick worked pretty well, still a little clunky but will fine tune over the next couple water changes.

Added RFG nozzles to the returns.

Found my internal closed loop pump never got plugged back in after the crash. Plumbing filled with crap.
They are low-ish flow to just move detritus out from under my shelf and caves. This was a stupid oversight on my part.

Plugged the pump in and looked like a diesel rolling coal from six stacks. Will be amazed if it doesn’t cause more issues. Set both skimmers super wet and let the run overnight.

Everything seemed fine this morning.

Thinking about adding a low flow 11g long bookshelf type display refugium / nutrient export tank to the system.

32x8x9 mounted above my canopy. Want to try my hand at mangroves and pulsing Xenia refugium. Had one years ago. I Swear it does work, if proven it doesn’t that okay, they look cool.

I can either feed it via a T on my return pump and overflow, probably plumbed in 1/2” pvc.

Or I have a spare Dos and could set it up to do something like a 25g water change daily, place a single powerhead and small 50w heater in it also.

If I did the 25g /day thing I would actually be able to measure input and output nutrient levels once it is full and mature.

We have 10ft ceilings so I have plenty of room for the mangroves to grow.

Also I can’t seem to keep chaeto alive in this system.

Tester frags are doing well, glued a couple to some rock rubble, once I update the aquascape I will be able to place them in their mostly forever spots.

One of my lights in of the fritz. Going to figure that out tonight.

 

[That Crusso Kid]

Found my internal closed loop pump never got plugged back in after the crash. Plumbing filled with crap.
They are low-ish flow to just move detritus out from under my shelf and caves. This was a stupid oversight on my part.

Plugged the pump in and looked like a diesel rolling coal from six stacks. Will be amazed if it doesn’t cause more issues. Set both skimmers super wet and let the run overnight.

I do not think you'll see any downside to this little mishap. Especially if you have enough flow going through the tank.

 

[That Crusso Kid]

Thinking about adding a low flow 11g long bookshelf type display refugium / nutrient export tank to the system.

32x8x9 mounted above my canopy. Want to try my hand at mangroves and pulsing Xenia refugium. Had one years ago. I Swear it does work, if proven it doesn’t that okay, they look cool.

They do work and it has been scientifically proven. Quite a few people run plumbed-in mangrove setups. Not only do they work, they also look cool and I am sure yours will be no exception.

 

[That Crusso Kid]

Or I have a spare Dos and could set it up to do something like a 25g water change daily, place a single powerhead and small 50w heater in it also.

If I did the 25g /day thing I would actually be able to measure input and output nutrient levels once it is full and mature.

You sure you got your math right on that daily water change volume? If so, I think your calculator might be broken.

 

[PPBlimpy]

You sure you got your math right on that daily water change volume? If so, I think your calculator might be broken.

I don’t think I explained that correctly.

I am thinking I could use the dos as the only pump to feed/drain the for this remote refugium.
Would be running it like a daily water charge.

Pretending my main system is the clean and dirty and doing the “water change” on the 11g tank.

Apparently the dos is capable of 30g/day.

Running the low thru put to feed this little tank from my main system. Would also have a power head and heater in this little tank. Some same/substrate for the mangroves.

I don’t know. Just thinking out loud.

 

[PPBlimpy]

They do work and it has been scientifically proven. Quite a few people run plumbed-in mangrove setups. Not only do they work, they also look cool and I am sure yours will be no exception.

Thinking a dozen or so mangroves growing up above the tank would look neat, then the rest that little tank filled with Xenia would be mesmerizing.

 

[That Crusso Kid]

I don’t think I explained that correctly.

I am thinking I could use the dos as the only pump to feed/drain the for this remote refugium.
Would be running it like a daily water charge.

Pretending my main system is the clean and dirty and doing the “water change” on the 11g tank.

Apparently the dos is capable of 30g/day.

Running the low thru put to feed this little tank from my main system. Would also have a power head and heater in this little tank. Some same/substrate for the mangroves.

I don’t know. Just thinking out loud.

It is apparent you have no yet picked up on when I am giving you a hard time. I understood the point you were making but saw an opening to bust your stones. You seem to give a lot of those openings which leads me to believe you, 1.) Like getting your stones busted or, C.) You have a fundamental flaw occurring from thinking something and expressing that something or, 6.) I am a keen observer who recognizes narrow stone busting opportunities or, X.) A combination of some or all of 1., C., and 6.

Then, again, I have not yet taken my morning meds and this could all be happening only in my imagination.