Qt and cupramine

Discussion in 'Fish Disease Treatment and Diagnosis' started by Mariners, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. Mariners

    Mariners Well-Known Member

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    hi everyone,
    This is an update to an earlier post i had qt-ing 2 firefish in a 13g.

    So far:
    1) 5 m freshwater dip, then placed in qt.
    2) days 1-5 praxipro, clean qt 25% water change
    3) days 6-10 2nd dose praxipro, 25% water change

    Cupramine
    1) days 1-13 of cupramine after praxi, both firefish had healthy appettites, no breathing issues, no visible spots (water change on day 7 and added drops of cupramine to maintain 0.5)
    2) days 13-21 both firefish would flash occassionally but still healthy and no spots, cupramine lvl closer to 0.6 after i did water change on day 14.

    Obviously there is an issue and i am doing a water change today on day 21.

    Should i continue w current method or should i give a 5m fresh water bath and maintain cupramine?

    Any suggestion or input would be greatly appreciated, thx.
     

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    Forgot to mention during the whole process ammonia, nitrate & nitrite all at zero
     
  3. Humblefish

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    When you do a water change, do you add drops of Cupramine to the bucket (replacement water)? Or do you add Cupramine after the new water has already been dumped into the QT?
     
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    The 1st 13 days i was adding cupramine after wc, then it was suggested to add cupramine to new water 1st so since day 14 water change i added 10-11 drop in new water and measured above 0.5 and added a few more after to get closer to 0.6. Ive added cupramine to the new batch for wc today also.
     
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    Because a therapeutic level may not have been continuously maintained prior to Day 14, I would tack on 30 days of copper treatment from Day 14 onward.
     
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    Thx for the advise, would you think a fresh water dip would be good or just undue stress?
     
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    I don't think a FW dip is necessary/needed at this point. Just keep the Cu therapeutic at all times and see if the scratching goes away.
     
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    Thx appreciate the input. Went with the dip today as they seemed quite irritable and were fighting w one another, then flashing. After the dip for 6 m freshwater and wc (added cupramine to new water so cu lvl slightly above 0.5), both are mellow, and eating well. So hopefully it works out.
     
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