Sps high nutrients myth?

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  1. saltyfilmfolks

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    nooo.;)
     

  2. mdavis735

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    Here in Austin we pour nitrates in our tank. Me from a 1 liter Dr Pepper bottle. Ty from a 1 liter bottle from whatever his drink of choice is.
     
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    I use a biopellet reactor combined with a skimmer rated for 2x the total volume of my tank.
    My nitrates shot up to 20 ppm! Get me 6 new acro colonies stat!
    Haha, I went back to the fish poop nitrate dosing system. I only tell other Austinites to do that so I can watch their tanks blow up with cyano and laugh maniacally! Kidding!
     
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    For the record I do not claim there is a specific number of days or weeks or years. Every tank is different and there comes a different time in every tank where it becomes and starts acting mature. Believe what you want or don't. Stable to me is very different from mature. Not really sure how anyone with thriving sps ever finds stable until the tank is fully grown in and you are fragging daily anyway.
     
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    I'm pretty sure my issue is dino's instead of cyano. It more brown and snotty looking. Knock on wood I've yet to see the classic maroon slime.
     
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    Oh my, dinos are the devil!
     
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    I agree. Not 100% sure what it is. To be honest. I hate it though
     
  8. Salty1962

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    I agree with Ty, your going to get some corals do well under one method and not the other. I 've tried UNLS until 2 mths ago and I was burning through corals like crazy, now I'm keeping more nutrients in my tank. Dosing KNo3 and feeding heavier and now corals that I thought I completely lost are starting to color up and come back.
     
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    Monti's love fish poop.
     
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    And I thought I had allot:rolleyes:
     
  11. mdavis735

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    It must be getting late. I got my D words mixed up. It's diatoms. Not Dino's.
     
  12. Salty1962

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    +1, I've had many reef tanks and none of them did well until @1.5 years. That is my corals and livestock. I believe some of it has to do with the reefer maturing as well;)
     
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    http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2003/5/aafeature

    http://packedhead.net/2015/triton-lab-icp-oes-testing-of-a-certified-artificial-saltwater-standard/


    This should help answer your concerns about aluminum. Also, based on the second link, the Triton test may not be all that accurate for some elements.

     
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    Thanks. I'm a nerd and have already read both of those articles but I appreciate you linking them! I had no concerns on the Al level in my tank and they've pretty much stayed there since I don't do water changes. That's why I told everyone in the Marine Pure thread, keep on trucking folks. No ill effects here.
     
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    No problem. I was freaking out about the marinepure in the past when I saw posts online about it leaching aluminum. I haven't bothered to test because I haven't had any problems I can attribute to it.

    I have had problems with SPS coloration due to low nutrients though! My coloration is better with over 5ppm nitrate. I stopped carbon dosing because it was causing more harm than good.
     
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    Would you guys suggest adding more fish to increase nitrates and phosphates rather than dumping more food? Or KN03 Or all three :)?
    Currently my nitrates read around 2.5ppm, phosphates at 0.03.. I feed everyday tons of reef roids and LRS, however I stop feeding one day and my phosphates drop to undetectable.. I had to turn off my skimmer I no longer use it at this moment.. I have about 5 small chromis, 1 flame angel, two clowns, blue tang (small) yellow tang(medium) six line wrasse, sailfang tang. All in my 525xl..
    I'm up for suggestions
     
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    How old is the tank?
     
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    5 months
     
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    Let's talk alkalinity in higher nutrients SPS systems. I was trying the ultra low route, and have killed or severely damaged a bunch of frags. I'm going back to my old practice. At any route I've always tried to keep alkalinity between 8-9. Low nutrient reefers tend to go between 6.8-7.3ish. I know of at least one person who has gone as low as 5.3dkh or at least claims that and with no issues. What are your numbers folks?
     
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    I have (and many others too) a frag tank sps dominated with nothing but MarinePure, and ceramic frag rack. No live rock, no sand.
    80g tank. Sorry no pics for the moment. MP is a great biomedia product.

    The tank on my signature have 4 blocks of MP, and corals are better than ever. CERO live rock, only dry tonga and pukani and bottle bacteria (one & only).

    I use the big blocks only and they are very VERY easy to cut, just with a PVC saw and you are done.

    Regarding Aluminum, I have test my 5 tanks with Triton Labs, and no relevant Al, and I use MP in all of them. I have been using MP since 2013, with CERO issues.

    Donno why (well maybe I do know) some guys rant so hard against MP.
     
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