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Tang Aggression - Understanding and Combating

  1. azreeftank

    azreeftank Well-Known Member

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    Here is the order I added my tangs and agree with most that has been said. My old FOWLR tank housed a blue tang and naso for almost 20 years with no issues. I sold everything off and donated the fish to start my current mixed reef. I now have 6 tangs and a Moorish Idol among other small clowns and cleaner and 6 line wrasses, this is how I did it in order of adding them. I waited 3-4 months between each addition.
    1. Yellow tang was 1" now he is over 4"
    2. Blue tang was tiny like 3/4" now is 5" added same day as the yellow tang
    3. Mimic tang was also tiny 3/4" now 4"
    4. Purple tang was 2" now 4"
    5. Achilles tang was 2" now close to 5". This was intended to be my last tang, it's always been my favorite fish and eats and grows like there is no tomorrow and for over a year that was it them found my last fish.
    6. 2" Chevron tang I could not resist. That was about a year ago. The Achilles aka welcoming committee ****** bag picked on him hard for about 3 weeks and then it stopped. No other tang has ever shown any aggression to new additions and the Achilles is the boss of the tank. He used to chase the Moorish Idol away from the Nori station so I added a second area and now I have no issues. I feed them heavy and often and do 2-3 sheets of Nori everyday and the tank is very peaceful. They have plenty of space and hiding areas to sleep but the Achilles and Moorish now share a large cave in the back at night that's kinda cool. I am all done adding fish and if the time comes to start removing them due to size or lack of space then the yellow and mimic will be first to go followed by the Chevron. I think with tangs heavy feeding, lots of hiding areas and LR along with excellent water quality and a large UV filter will go a long way in success. The Naso I had for 20 years recently died at the place I had donated him about 6 years ago and he was close to 14" long my guess he was 28 years the blue tang is still alive and about the same age.
     

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    azreeftank Well-Known Member

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    I added large floor mirror on one side of the tank when adding new tangs for a week or so. It kept my aggressive tangs so busy chasing themselves they ignored the new fish. It gave them a chance to acclimate start eating and find a safe spot.
     
  3. Brew12

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    I may need to give that mirror trick a try. I wonder if my yellow tang would mellow out at all if he had to fight with himself all day. o_O
     
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    Wanting some opinions on aggression...looking to add a Chevron, Achilles, Dussumieri, and Gem to my 300DD...currently no other tangs...just some wrasses and anthias. I was figuring that if they all go in at once aggression would be limited.
     
  5. 4FordFamily

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    I think you'd be fine. Good use adding together! :)
     
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    Friday24 Well-Known Member

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    Would size differences matter a whole lot?
     
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    Not as much if added concurrently. The dussi I would buy small because they grow enormous. Achilles do best 3-5" in size with tear drop (sign of maturity). Other than that not really!
     
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    Awesome thanks!!
     
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    Awesome thanks!!
     
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    Any time!
     
  11. Murica

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    I need a tang expert! I currently have a blue hippo and a yellow for tangs.. Only other big fish is a yellow pyramid butterfly.

    I want at least one more tang, I love the achilles but I hear they can be aggressive. I also like purple and clown. Thoughts? I just don't want them fighting. 240 gallon display
     
  12. 4FordFamily

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    The existing tangs may not tolerate --but your biggest issue will be disease. Hippo and yellow are able to fight off and become resistant to ich, and likely have if you've not treated all of your fish for this. Your Achilles will be like an ich grenade.

    Clown tangs are a bit hardier but still very susceptible
     
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    What about the purple?
     
  14. 4FordFamily

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    Purple are aggressive but if added afterward are usually OK, especially smaller specimen. They don't tend to hold permanent grudges, either. The biggest risk you have with them is adding other zebrasoma later, such as your black tang.
     
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    Would a kole tang work? I hear they eat detritus
     
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    It may, they're moderately hardy
     
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    You are my hero!

    Took every bit of advice from rearranging my rock (hated to do it), using a mirror, acclimation box, and heavy feeding. End result? Added a kole tang and convict tang and other than some mild aggression from my Yellow Tang everyone is happy. All my fish are out and about more. THIS is the tank I have always wanted. Thank you for sharing your Tang knowledge!
     
  18. 4FordFamily

    4FordFamily Tang, Angel, & Wrasse Addict R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award Reef Squad Leader Build Thread Contributor Article Contributor Partner Member 2018

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    That's excellent! I'm so glad you're happy and t worked out for you! That's a neat mix of fish. Pics?
     
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    I have most of my little frags in racks right now from arranging the rocks. Going to glue them in place tomorrow then will clean the front glass to get some pics. Seriously excited about getting to this point!
     
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    I'm glad you're excited! I don't have ANY fish right now at all, or any running tanks :(

    My 6 remaining fish are at a friends house in my QT tank while my home is built. I'm coming back, though!

    To anyone who didn't know about my power outage (breaker), that killed 3/4 of my tanks off. I had several in QT that died that were slated to go in to the surviving unaffected tank (different area of house).
     
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