Hey Everyone, looking for some help as i am fairly new to the mangrove life. I have mine in the sump in a couple inch's of old Fiji pink sand, it has been fairly well of late growing pretty tall but I fear it may be getting fairly close to the light. Has anyone ever used Bonsai wire to help shape their mangroves? any advice on this?
 

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Hey Everyone, looking for some help as i am fairly new to the mangrove life. I have mine in the sump in a couple inch's of old Fiji pink sand, it has been fairly well of late growing pretty tall but I fear it may be getting fairly close to the light. Has anyone ever used Bonsai wire to help shape their mangroves? any advice on this?
I've used zip ties to train.
 
Hey Everyone, looking for some help as i am fairly new to the mangrove life. I have mine in the sump in a couple inch's of old Fiji pink sand, it has been fairly well of late growing pretty tall but I fear it may be getting fairly close to the light. Has anyone ever used Bonsai wire to help shape their mangroves? any advice on this?
Inland reef is an expert at that…Tyler is his name.
 
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The mangrove lagoon is finally up and running. Got the tank drilled and plumbed into the main tanks sump.
For those of you using root tabs, how often do you add new ones?
Looks great! I use a couple of root tabs about every six months.
 
Also thought I’d share this
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The first three images show my white mangrove. Laguncularia racemosa I’ve had it for a bit over 8 months it started as just two leaves on a stick. Right now it’s growing in a mix of sand and a pond potting specific mix. It’s really been doing well, I haven’t come across too many people growing them in aquariums I know they don’t have as high of a salt tolerance but was hoping to add it to a brackish bog

The leggy plant one in the last photo is my black mangrove. Avicennia germinans It’s been growing well definitely not as happy. It’s growing in a similar potting mix with less sand. Both are in only freshwater for now. Would love some input on the black mangrove is anyone’s got some experience.
They both are growing outside right now but move inside over the winter
 
Hey Everyone, looking for some help as i am fairly new to the mangrove life. I have mine in the sump in a couple inch's of old Fiji pink sand, it has been fairly well of late growing pretty tall but I fear it may be getting fairly close to the light. Has anyone ever used Bonsai wire to help shape their mangroves? any advice on this?
I use bonsai wire to train my mangroves. It fairly easy to do but you do have to remember they’re there as the tree will grow into the wire if you leave it on for too long. I would start with a small gauge as your trunk is not too large. It’s still flexible enough that a single wire wrapped around the trunk will help you position the mangrove where you want it to go.

Would you be open to trimming your mangrove to instigate branch growth instead of just using bonsai wire to move the tree away from the light above? I can help walk you through it based on what your long term goals are for your tree.
 
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I don’t have any answers to the above questions but I would also love to know more about wire vs trimming. And what promoting branch development looks like.
Three of My five in this tank have started branching on their own, one from the very first leaf. Is there any ideas about what cause branching other than trimming? Does light intensity play a role?

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I don’t have any answers to the above questions but I would also love to know more about wire vs trimming. And what promoting branch development looks like.
Three of My five in this tank have started branching on their own, one from the very first leaf. Is there any ideas about what cause branching other than trimming? Does light intensity play a role?

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Likely your tree’s root growth has created a large enough base for the tree to feel confident in creating a canopy. If the roots are not in a position to stabilize the tree, lateral branch growth would cause the mangrove to become too heavy and fall over.

I don’t feel it has anything to do with intensity of lighting but the more light given to the mangrove could help with the energy production to its root system.

If you look at your mangrove from the Birds Eye view, you’ll see leaves that alternate. Think of a clock. You have leaves in the 12 and 6 position and 3 and 9 o’clock position. If you want your mangrove to branch out in the direction of 12 and 6 you will find a pair of leaves in that orientation and cut the trunk a quarter to a half inch about them. New branch growth is typically produced just above the 12 and 6 orientation leaves right above the connection node of the leaves to the stem. You can do this the same for the 3 and 9 o’clock orientation. You can actually see it pretty well in the pictures you just posted. I use basic pruning tools you can get at the local hardware store from the garden section and just disinfect with some alcohol to make sure I’m not transferring any diseases. This is a fun alternative to trying to shape the main trunk with bonsai wire to create different shape. This doesn’t replace bonsai wire though. As the new branches grow in, you want to use that wire while the branches are still easily movable. Once they get the woody growth/ bark it’s harder to manipulate. I train the branches so that pockets of light from my LEDs mounted high up above the tank and trees can still get light in areas down to corals. Just like in the wild. There will be shady areas and bright areas of the tank.

*disclaimer: if you cut your mangrove, do not expect instant branch growth. Some mangroves do respond quickly to cutting, others it could stunt their growth similar to a stress factor like moving them to a new tank. I have had mangroves where cutting them has shifted energy to other locations of the tree, like growing larger prop roots. Eventually it’ll come back to canopy growth but it may take some time. I actually enjoy seeing this shift happen as a stronger root growth creates better stabilization for the canopy and the tree will respond with branch grow in due time. Again, my recommendations here are based on my experience and every result could come out differently. I know mangroves are delicate and should be treated carefully when in saltwater systems, especially their root system, but the leaf and branch canopy…. I usually hack mine back like a shrub probably twice a year. Only trim mangroves that are healthy. If your mangrove is dropping leaves excessively or you’re seeing any wrinkling, dark coloration or squishiness to a slight pinch on your mangroves trunk, DO NOT CUT THEM. You will only cause more stress to the tree.

Let me know if you have any other questions. I’ll see if I can get some pictures of my mangroves to help show where I would cut. I just recently pruned back my trees as they were growing into my lights.
 
Likely your tree’s root growth has created a large enough base for the tree to feel confident in creating a canopy. If the roots are not in a position to stabilize the tree, lateral branch growth would cause the mangrove to become too heavy and fall over.

I don’t feel it has anything to do with intensity of lighting but the more light given to the mangrove could help with the energy production to its root system.

If you look at your mangrove from the Birds Eye view, you’ll see leaves that alternate. Think of a clock. You have leaves in the 12 and 6 position and 3 and 9 o’clock position. If you want your mangrove to branch out in the direction of 12 and 6 you will find a pair of leaves in that orientation and cut the trunk a quarter to a half inch about them. New branch growth is typically produced just above the 12 and 6 orientation leaves right above the connection node of the leaves to the stem. You can do this the same for the 3 and 9 o’clock orientation. You can actually see it pretty well in the pictures you just posted. I use basic pruning tools you can get at the local hardware store from the garden section and just disinfect with some alcohol to make sure I’m not transferring any diseases. This is a fun alternative to trying to shape the main trunk with bonsai wire to create different shape. This doesn’t replace bonsai wire though. As the new branches grow in, you want to use that wire while the branches are still easily movable. Once they get the woody growth/ bark it’s harder to manipulate. I train the branches so that pockets of light from my LEDs mounted high up above the tank and trees can still get light in areas down to corals. Just like in the wild. There will be shady areas and bright areas of the tank.

*disclaimer: if you cut your mangrove, do not expect instant branch growth. Some mangroves do respond quickly to cutting, others it could stunt their growth similar to a stress factor like moving them to a new tank. I have had mangroves where cutting them has shifted energy to other locations of the tree, like growing larger prop roots. Eventually it’ll come back to canopy growth but it may take some time. I actually enjoy seeing this shift happen as a stronger root growth creates better stabilization for the canopy and the tree will respond with branch grow in due time. Again, my recommendations here are based on my experience and every result could come out differently. I know mangroves are delicate and should be treated carefully when in saltwater systems, especially their root system, but the leaf and branch canopy…. I usually hack mine back like a shrub probably twice a year. Only trim mangroves that are healthy. If your mangrove is dropping leaves excessively or you’re seeing any wrinkling, dark coloration or squishiness to a slight pinch on your mangroves trunk, DO NOT CUT THEM. You will only cause more stress to the tree.

Let me know if you have any other questions. I’ll see if I can get some pictures of my mangroves to help show where I would cut. I just recently pruned back my trees as they were growing into my lights.
Thanks for this post.

I changed my tank up and reoriented all of my mangroves around the back and end panel of the shallow lagoon end of my tank so that there would still be good light penetration to the lagoon floor. Naturally, once the mangroves settled back in, the canopy blew up and they’re starting to shade the lagoon bottom. I guess I was always a little nervous about trimming them, but after reading your post, I feel better about carving some of that canopy out.
 

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