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Do I sense frustration...

Imagine 1981, 300 baud modem, dialup BBS, and a busy tone .. for hours on end.

You have to feel better now :)
 

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Do I sense frustration...

Imagine 1981, 300 baud modem, dialup BBS, and a busy tone .. for hours on end.

You have to feel better now :)
you sense correctly
 

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Not sure if its helpful or not but it happens more frequently when I'm on mobile vs Wi-Fi

I was going to say the same thing. If I am on my phone it seems to run into issues a lot more. I have not had the issue on my computer though.

Although if it is to stop Megatron and the AI robots from taking over I am all for the authentication circles.
 

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Made some changes! Hopefully you want see that manages challenge much anymore! LMK!
 

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Still going good?
 

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The VPN is part of your issue. This site gets hammered by bots and scrapers. Cloudflare is going to challenge your VPN every time the route changes or a cookie, or header doesn’t match. It is doing its job.

Why are you using a VPN? They are pointless for browsing and offer virtually no privacy or safety from anybody that actually cares about tracking you.
Sorry I use a VPN and no problem. Its not for reef2reef. I find the odd time I get that screen if I go away for some time and return and refresh. On the other hand if the VPN is on my email will just plain not open so I argue that it may give some form of security. There are other sites that wont open or challenge me as well. I have no idea what a hacker or any AI program can do.
 

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Sorry I use a VPN and no problem.
That may very well be the case. Using a VPN does not guarantee problems, it just increases the chances of being blocked or having to pass a Turing test. This is part of what I do for a living....
 

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That may very well be the case. Using a VPN does not guarantee problems, it just increases the chances of being blocked or having to pass a Turing test. This is part of what I do for a living....
That I was not aware of I got one on my brother in laws suggestion. Thought I would give it a shot. Why do you feel they offer no protection? I also wonder if it makes a difference if you check the keep me logged in box to stop the challenges ?
 

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That I was not aware of I got one on my brother in laws suggestion. Thought I would give it a shot. Why do you feel they offer no protection? I also wonder if it makes a difference if you check the keep me logged in box to stop the challenges ?
It’s not that a VPN offers “no protection” — it’s that most people have no clue what protection it may offer. Worse, most think that a VPN hides their identity, location or browsing history. Rest assured, any government or viable hacker, and just about every remarketing e fine on the planet doesn’t even see it as a speed bump.

Let me make a very dumbed down analogy. You are the only guy in town who wears a blue coat and cowboy hat. You are 3 feet tall and walk with a strut. You always buy skittles 3 pounds at time, and an iced coffee on the way home. You are usually whistling the tune to Gillian’s Island. You drive a convertible. One day you take a limo with blacked out windows, becuse somebody told you to hide your identity. To be careful, you switch hats too.

Off you go to buy you 3 pounds of skittles, in your blue coat, derby and sipping on your iced coffee, all happy that nobody can recognize you…

VPNs may hide your IP address but your internet history, devices and habits are like a fingerprint and allow your actions to be easily tied to you, even while “hiding”.

What is unique to you and tracked everywhere that you go?
  • Browser/device fingerprints (screen size, fonts, GPU, OS, serial numbers, installed software, and dozens of other metrics)
  • Cookies and local storage
  • Account logins and reuse of credentials
  • Behavioral patterns (timing, phrasing, mouse or scroll behavior)
  • DNS leaks or WebRTC exposures
  • Traffic correlation and timing analysis
  • Countless other clickstream metrics
  • Network neighborhood
  • address history and ASN patterns
  • MAC address (when exposed on local networks)
  • Bluetooth beacon IDs and proximity history
  • Wi-Fi SSIDs and BSSIDs previously joined
  • Mobile device identifiers (IMEI, IMSI, Android ID, IDFA)
  • Push notification tokens
  • Installed fonts and browser extensions
  • Time zone, language, and locale
  • Hardware UUIDs and TPM identifiers
  • Clipboard contents and shared data APIs
  • Referrer chains and cross-site request tracking
  • Session tokens and fingerprinted TLS handshakes
  • HTTP headers (user agent, accept-language, accept-encoding)
  • Browser canvas and WebGL rendering signatures
  • Audio fingerprint (via Web Audio API)
  • Battery charge patterns and power profile
  • Typing cadence and error rate
  • Device motion, orientation, and sensor data
  • Payment methods and transaction metadata
  • Geolocation (IP-based, GPS, Wi-Fi triangulation)
  • Advertising IDs and SDK telemetry
  • Cloud or app-level analytics (Google, Meta, etc.)
  • OS telemetry (Windows, macOS, iOS, Android)
  • Smart-home and IoT device cross-correlation
  • CDN, API, and app-call signatures
  • Email pixel trackers and open timestamps
  • Contact graph (shared accounts, mutual logins, phone numbers)
  • Browser cache and favicon cache identifiers
  • Certificate and TLS session reuse fingerprints
  • Pattern of connected networks (“network neighborhood”)
  • Voice and image recognition vectors (if using mic/cam apps)
Each element can correlate you across sessions, networks, or devices, even behind a VPN. Not only that, your proximity to other people, their locations, habits and data are tied.

VPN or not, via a bit of data correlation you can’t hide. This isn’t just government tracking you, it is Google, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, ad networks, etc.

A VPN secures data between two points, it doesn’t hide you, anonymize you or protect you from bad actors.

Don’t waste money and complicate your browsing with a VPN. It serves little purpose other than to lighten your wallet.
 

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