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Hope it's OK that I resurrect this older thread.

I ordered one each of Paracheilinus carpenteri and Paracheilinus flavianalis, but one of them was DOA.

I want to make sure I re-order the correct species (so I don't end up with conspecifics), but I'm having trouble figuring out which one survived.

Being a juvenile might make things trickier, too (it's about 1.5" in length).

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Is the survivor a flavianalis?
 

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Hope it's OK that I resurrect this older thread.

I ordered one each of Paracheilinus carpenteri and Paracheilinus flavianalis, but one of them was DOA.

I want to make sure I re-order the correct species (so I don't end up with conspecifics), but I'm having trouble figuring out which one survived.

Being a juvenile might make things trickier, too (it's about 1.5" in length).

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Is the survivor a flavianalis?
The survivor is an adult Carpenteri :)

I need to get a photo of my Flavi pair but when you see them side by side it’s clear there’s a difference. The main one being the Yellow (Flavi) Anal fin (Analis) of the Yellowfin Flasher (Flavianalis)
 

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The survivor is an adult Carpenteri :)

I need to get a photo of my Flavi pair but when you see them side by side it’s clear there’s a difference. The main one being the Yellow (Flavi) Anal fin (Analis) of the Yellowfin Flasher (Flavianalis)
Thanks! My first thought was carpenteri, too, but the vendor was pretty sure it's a Yellowfin.

You mentioned "adult" carpenteri... he's only about 1.5" in length, does that change anything?
 

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It is a developing Carpenter flasher wrasse. Yellowfin has Yellow anal fin, with bright red dorsal spike, can be one or multiple. Carpenter wrasse has yellow inner and red outer anal fin, does not have red spike and also have black area on dorsal fin near the body and the back half of the dorsal fin. this is what your fish developing, but not full color yet.
 

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It is a developing Carpenter flasher wrasse. Yellowfin has Yellow anal fin, with bright red dorsal spike, can be one or multiple. Carpenter wrasse has yellow inner and red outer anal fin, does not have red spike and also have black area on dorsal fin near the body and the back half of the dorsal fin. this is what your fish developing, but not full color yet.
I wouldn’t rely on a red spike suggesting flavianalis or carpenteri - my Flavi lacks a red dorsal spike, but has the solid yellow anal fin.
 

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Thanks! My first thought was carpenteri, too, but the vendor was pretty sure it's a Yellowfin.

You mentioned "adult" carpenteri... he's only about 1.5" in length, does that change anything?
My male Flavianalis was 1” if that when I got him, full male colours. My Diamond Tail was the same :)

You’ve got an adult male carpenteri - juveniles are always females.
 

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I wouldn’t rely on a red spike suggesting flavianalis or carpenteri - my Flavi lacks a red dorsal spike, but has the solid yellow anal fin.
I certainly know what you mean. The species define characteristic of the yellow fin is the yellow anal fin. Other characteristics are helpful if they are there. This is a young male, so the yellow and red anal fin is not quite there, so that is why some people think it is a Yellowfin. However, the black on the caudal area of the dorsal fin, along with the lack of red dorsal spike point toward Carpenter, even if the red outer 1/2 of the anal fin is not quite there yet. This point to developing male, not a fully colored male. The OP can put a mirror on the tank and if a picture of a flashing wrasse is capture, it would make ID a lot easier.
Flasher wrasses are know to hybridized in the wild. That is the reason we see such variations in these wrasses.
 

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