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Also, those interested in utilizing H2O2 to manage (or even possibly eradicate) parasites in a DT should look into running an Oxydator. (Never thought I would see myself write that. )
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Also, those interested in utilizing H2O2 to manage (or even possibly eradicate) parasites in a DT should look into running an Oxydator. (Never thought I would see myself write that. )
Just for clarification...
The 75-150 mg/L dosage range is meant to only be used as a 30 minute bath treatment, as outlined here: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/hydrogen-peroxide.640232/
In most cases, you can safely dose 3% Hydrogen Peroxide in a reef environment every 12 hours at a dosage range of 1ml per 8-10 gallons. This is already being done to combat cyano, dinos and various nuisance algae. The problem with dosing in a reef environment is light, gas exchange and other factors will decompose H2O2. Which will possibly drop it below "therapeutic" (for parasite purposes) before you can safely administer the next dosage.
Also, those interested in utilizing H2O2 to manage (or even possibly eradicate) parasites in a DT should look into running an Oxydator. (Never thought I would see myself write that. )
So can we string all this together and say that dosing 1ml per 8-10 gallons every 12 hours may *possibly* be effective at controlling ich and velvet? I'm unsure if you are just saying that this is a safe max dose or whether you are also saying it may be a safe dose AND an effective dose...
I see many times that it is advised to FWD fish with ich and/or velvet for temporary relief. Would it be better to do a 30 minute H2O2 bath then go to QT for copper treatment? Seams that this would eliminate more of the parasites than a FWD and provide more time for the copper to start working.It may be effective at controlling (and possibly even eliminating) marine parasites & worms (external only). The science behind using H2O2 to do this is sound, but dosing it into an aquarium introduces too many X factors which are difficult to predict. I've seen it both work & fail in a DT environment. It is extremely important to dose 1ml per 8-10 gallons every 12 hours for at least 30 days. To have any chance of success at eradicating marine parasites/worms.
What we need is an accurate H2O2 checker/meter @Hanna Instruments. The ones that are on the market today are too inaccurate + expensive.
If we can get that done, parasite game over, checkmate!
I see many times that it is advised to FWD fish with ich and/or velvet for temporary relief. Would it be better to do a 30 minute H2O2 bath then go to QT for copper treatment? Seams that this would eliminate more of the parasites than a FWD and provide more time for the copper to start working.
Assuming corals can tolerate concentrations needed. I’m not convinced.
From the Canadian version of Perox-Aid, guess with some tweaks could be used to figure out dosing in a display tank, their testing was done on a fish farm:
What concentration of H2O2 are you using for the 1ml per 8-10 gallon dose? Is the standard 3% found everywhere or a higher concentration?
I think this is really interesting to test out from perhaps a FOWLR perspective where it would be relatively easy to eliminate strong light and flow on the tank without worrying about coral issues. I wonder how difficult it would be to maintain this sustained level for the duration necessary to eliminate external parasites.FWIW; the 1ml per 10 gallon sustained H2O2 treatment in a DT should be capable of killing Ich as well because in that scenario the free swimmers would be successfully targeted.
The best we can do is get more sources interested in doing further peer-reviewed studies on the subject. No matter what we prove/disprove, it will never be taken seriously until a bunch of people with PhDs sign off on it.
Hmmmmm, I feel an experiment coming on, if I hear you correctly a 30 day treatment with H2O2 in QT could possibly be the way of the future.FWIW; the 1ml per 10 gallon sustained H2O2 treatment in a DT should be capable of killing Ich as well because in that scenario the free swimmers would be successfully targeted.
I run a FOWLR. Disease free from the start. Nice to have this info in case anything ever slipped through QT.I think this is really interesting to test out from perhaps a FOWLR perspective where it would be relatively easy to eliminate strong light and flow on the tank without worrying about coral issues. I wonder how difficult it would be to maintain this sustained level for the duration necessary to eliminate external parasites.
This has the bath info:I run a FOWLR. Disease free from the start. Nice to have this info in case anything ever slipped through QT.
For clarification:
3% hydrogen peroxide dosed at 1 ml per 10 gallons every 12 hours for a minimum of 30 days.
Did I get all that correct?
And how many ml/gallon for a 30min bath?