FDA warns Chewy kraft drug and fish antibiotics company

[fishtankantibiotics]

Looks like as of the first of the year you will no longer be able to buy fish antibiotics without a prescription. They don’t want you to have free access to these meds for a reason. Perhaps a reason that will become apparent soon

FDA warns Chewy kraft drug and fish antibiotics company​

US FDA warns Chewy kraft drug and fish antibiotics company

The FDA said the retailers sold unapproved medications containing penicillin and amoxicillin, which could lead to the evolution of drug-resistant “superbugs.” The products in question were targeted at birds and fish, the FDA wrote in a letter to the companies.

thefishaid.com

 

[Lbrdsoxfan]

Why a emergency?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Perhaps a reason that will become apparent soon

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I think the reason is clearly stated:

"First, these products haven't been through the FDA drug review process, and we don't know whether they're safe or effective, or even contain what the label states," Tracey Forfa, JD, director of the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine, said in a press release. "Second, inappropriate use of medically important antimicrobials contributes to the development of antimicrobial resistance, which affects both human and animal health"

 

[jkcoon]

Bummer - guess I’ll have to stock up this week

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

An estimated 1.2 million people died in 2019 from antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections | University of Oxford

First comprehensive analysis of global impact of antimicrobial resistance (AMR) estimates resistance itself caused 1.27 million deaths in 2019 - more deaths than HIV/AIDS or malaria - and that antimicrobial-resistant infections played a role in 4.95 million deaths.

www.ox.ac.uk

"More than 1.2 million people – and potentially millions more – died in 2019 as a direct result of antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections, according to the most comprehensive estimate to date of the global impact of antimicrobial resistance (AMR)."

 

[brandon429]

I am 10000000000000% glad for this

several threads called this a few months ago, crack down time was long due

now cipro cheaters will have to go natty

and the hobby will benefit, and the cipro abusers have less tools and less knowledge to reef with now for the years they juiced


that rtn is coming and now they have no other means to battle it since they have been cheating

Glad they’re cracking down


cipro push article

Managing Tissue Necrosis | Reef Builders | The Reef and Saltwater Aquarium Blog

While we have come a long way in the hobby and have improved our husbandry skills for keeping corals immeasurably over the past four decades, we still have much to learn, especially in the area of…

reefbuilders.com

 

[Cthulukelele]

An estimated 1.2 million people died in 2019 from antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections | University of Oxford

First comprehensive analysis of global impact of antimicrobial resistance (AMR) estimates resistance itself caused 1.27 million deaths in 2019 - more deaths than HIV/AIDS or malaria - and that antimicrobial-resistant infections played a role in 4.95 million deaths.

www.ox.ac.uk

"More than 1.2 million people – and potentially millions more – died in 2019 as a direct result of antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections, according to the most comprehensive estimate to date of the global impact of antimicrobial resistance (AMR)."

Anecdotally working in a hospital system the rise in antibiotic-resistent bacterial infections in hospital settings has gotten much worse in the past few years. A lot of people don't understand that the biggest difference between health outcomes now and health outcomes 500 years ago BY FAR is effective antibiotics. The moment we reach a tipping point on bacterial antibiotic resistance, life will become a lot more complicated and deadly for the average person

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

It's a huge and growing problem, not just from a science perspective, but from an economic one.

When a company develops a novel antibiotic to treat these superbugs, regulators want to protect it from its own resistance by sharply controlling the use. Low use means low profit potential means far fewer companies willing to take the big financial risks required to develop new medications.

I don't have any great answers, but it may require regulators and insurance companies willing to allow a novel antibiotic to be rewarded financially as are life saving rare disease drugs, which might cost a half a million dollars for a treatment.

In the end, society just cannot afford to save everyone from every disease. Harsh as that sounds, it is an economic reality that is going to bite more and more into human psyche in the coming years: we may technically be able to do it, but cannot afford to do it.

Why is it so hard to develop new antibiotics? | News | Wellcome

Discovering and then bringing new antibiotics to market is a tricky challenge – but one we need to solve if we want to be better protected against the growing threat of drug-resistant infections. Here’s why, and what has to happen to develop new medicines.

wellcome.org

 

[jda]

When I was searching for requirements to sell products for aquarium use that have prescription things in them, there were some indications on a phone call that some crackdown is coming in a big way for people who do not label their products.

Currently, it is not illegal to sell antibiotics for aquarium use, but they have to be labeled correctly with directions and stuff.

Freshwater treats more than marine, but the marine market uses a lot of cyano cleaners and most are not labled and some even go out their way to claim that they contain no antibiotics when they indeed do. Only one company that I know of admits to using Tylosin, which is a big-time bird antibiotic.

 

[Stang67]

Anecdotally working in a hospital system the rise in antibiotic-resistent bacterial infections in hospital settings has gotten much worse in the past few years. A lot of people don't understand that the biggest difference between health outcomes now and health outcomes 500 years ago BY FAR is effective antibiotics. The moment we reach a tipping point on bacterial antibiotic resistance, life will become a lot more complicated and deadly for the average person

Exactly why I pass on all of these "vaccines" an "shots".

 

[jda]

BTW - many of those bottles are knowingly sold to humans for human use. I have seen these marketed to segments of people who think that doctors will put tracking devices and stuff in you. The photo in the article above is from a website called Preppers Survive.

Stocking up on Fish Mox: a Systematic Analysis of Cultural Narratives about Self-medicating in Online Forums

This study is a systematic review of cultural narratives that drive American belief in the value and efficacy of stocking up on fish antibiotics for human consumption. Popularized by “doomsday prepper” forums and survivalist medical professionals' ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[AydenLincoln]

Why an emergency?

It’s definitely not. But my guess is to get more people to click on the post.

 

[fishtankantibiotics]

It’s definitely not. But my guess is to get more people to click on the post.

FDA targets Chewy, other animal companies for selling unapproved antibiotics

Major animal product retailer Chewy and eight other companies violated federal law by selling unapproved animal antibiotics, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) alleged Thursday. The FDA said th…

thehill.com

 

[Jay Hemdal]

This is long overdue. There is a 50+ year history of aquarium antibiotics being diverted to treat people...get sick, just go the the pet store and buy some tetracycline caps. Recently, a fish drug supplier was caught for the second time, selling mislabeled medications imported from China.

Let's look at the reality of antibiotic use in aquariums; virtually all bacteria that cause infections in aquarium animals are part of the normal microbiome. Infection occur then, not because novel bacteria got into your tank, but because something in the animal lowered its ability to fight off the bacteria - a cut in the skin, poor environmental conditions, etc. Even Mycobacterium can be isolated from virtually every aquarium....if you sample carefully enough. Using antibiotics in these cases has very little benefit if the original issue is not resolved.

Jay

 

[brandon429]

Harms from cipro use in the hobby:

-time lost developing internal resistance in corals. Had it never arose in the hobby we’d be better positioned / adapt or die / to handle rtn and stn and bjd without meds. why is it no pico reefers have to dose cipro in order to reef? Is it big tanker problems? Answers exit to reefing without it, but we didn’t want to undertake that effort. We rode the easy train.

weak genetic lines that can’t mount their own defenses to pathogens would be selected out vs selected in, by cheating natural selection

by propping up weaker genetic lines and allowing targets to adapt with indiscriminate use of antibiotics not intended for reefing, all genetic lines in care are at elevated risk.

-shortcut training to reefers, they’re going to stock up we can see. They’re going to find alternate ways to shortcut the right effort that protects the hobby vs creates resistant pathogens…cipro is the crutch they must use in their mind now.

Cipro was reef crack this entire time pushed, I linked a push article above. It lowered the ability for reefers to win via multiple solutions that don’t harm evolution of microbes.

 

[MnFish1]

This has been a long time coming - and - just like any other pet, if it's sick, talk to a veterinarian. The price you would pay for much of this medication would seem to be far less than the prices on the posted website. What it will effectively end is the use of fluconazole etc for treating algae issues - which is also a great idea IMHO. If people think that bacterial resistance to antibiotics is a disaster, fungal resistance has the potential as bad if not yet worse.

 

[Reefing102]

Can’t say I didn’t see this coming.

Unrelated note, I love how they jacked up their prices. I’ve bought from fishaid before (recently) and the prices were half of what they currently are. Not buying from them any time soon.

 

[KrisReef]

Looks like as of the first of the year you will no longer be able to buy fish antibiotics without a prescription. They don’t want you to have free access to these meds for a reason. Perhaps a reason that will become apparent soon

FDA warns Chewy kraft drug and fish antibiotics company​

US FDA warns Chewy kraft drug and fish antibiotics company

The FDA said the retailers sold unapproved medications containing penicillin and amoxicillin, which could lead to the evolution of drug-resistant “superbugs.” The products in question were targeted at birds and fish, the FDA wrote in a letter to the companies.

thefishaid.com

Beware of the government healthcare complex. A monopoly on prescriptions allows for Veterinarians to pay off their government student loans and keep the cost of treatment healthy.

 

[KrisReef]

Can’t say I didn’t see this coming.

Unrelated note, I love how they jacked up their prices. I’ve bought from fishaid before (recently) and the prices were half of what they currently are. Not buying from them any time soon.

Stock up now while you still can. The prices are only going up

 

[Reefing102]

Stock up now while you still can. The prices are only going up

lol I’m good. All my meds don’t expire til 2025 or later. I only bought the Cipro in an attempt to save my gig which ended up being to late.