Fish list compatibility?

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I have a 75 gallon aquarium(40’ by 24’ by 20’). I have a fish list which I have done a lot of research on. However, I would like to know if there are any compatibility problems that I am unaware of as well as possible better alternatives. Any recommendations or words of advise are much appreciated!

  • White tail Bristletooth tang
  • Biota Yellow Tang
  • Biota Court Jester Goby
  • Orange Clown Goby
  • Biota Royal gramma
  • Purple tilefish
  • Pair of Ocellaris Clownfish
  • Pair of Bella Sleeper Gobies
  • Copperband butterfly fish or long nose butterfly fish
  • Ruby Red Dragonet
  • Bicolor Blenny
  • Fathead Sunburst Anthias
  • Jawfish or goby and pistol shrimp pair
  • Longnose hawkfish
  • Biota Blue Streak Cleaner wrasse
  • Pair of Pink streak wrasse
  • 2 Yellow Canary Wrasses
  • 1 Azure Damselfish
  • Biota Multibar Angelfish
  • Pintail Fairy wrasse
  • Naoko Fairy wrasse
  • Diamond Tail Flasher wrasse
  • McCosckers Flasher wrasse
 

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no glaring compatibility issues to my eye, but definitely looks like way too many fish, at least double or more what I'd be comfortable with in that size tank. I have a 70 gallon display and am at full capacity in my opinion with:

yellow tang
clown pair
black molly
2 springeri damsels
six-line wrasse
starry blenny
coral beauty angel
 

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I have a 75 gallon aquarium(40’ by 24’ by 20’). I have a fish list which I have done a lot of research on. However, I would like to know if there are any compatibility problems that I am unaware of as well as possible better alternatives. Any recommendations or words of advise are much appreciated!

  • White tail Bristletooth tang
  • Biota Yellow Tang -
  • Biota Court Jester Goby
  • Orange Clown Goby
  • Biota Royal gramma
  • Purple tilefish
  • Pair of Ocellaris Clownfish
  • Pair of Bella Sleeper Gobies
  • Copperband butterfly fish or long nose butterfly fish
  • Ruby Red Dragonet
  • Bicolor Blenny
  • Fathead Sunburst Anthias
  • Jawfish or goby and pistol shrimp pair
  • Longnose hawkfish
  • Biota Blue Streak Cleaner wrasse
  • Pair of Pink streak wrasse
  • 2 Yellow Canary Wrasses
  • 1 Azure Damselfish
  • Biota Multibar Angelfish
  • Pintail Fairy wrasse
  • Naoko Fairy wrasse
  • Diamond Tail Flasher wrasse
  • McCosckers Flasher wrasse
The fairy/flasher/cleaner wrasses, tangs and butterflies all require a 4 foot tank absolute minimum. If you remove all those fish that looks like a good stocking list.
 

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I have a 75 gallon aquarium(40’ by 24’ by 20’). I have a fish list which I have done a lot of research on. However, I would like to know if there are any compatibility problems that I am unaware of as well as possible better alternatives. Any recommendations or words of advise are much appreciated!

  • White tail Bristletooth tang
  • Biota Yellow Tang
  • Biota Court Jester Goby
  • Orange Clown Goby
  • Biota Royal gramma
  • Purple tilefish
  • Pair of Ocellaris Clownfish
  • Pair of Bella Sleeper Gobies
  • Copperband butterfly fish or long nose butterfly fish
  • Ruby Red Dragonet
  • Bicolor Blenny
  • Fathead Sunburst Anthias
  • Jawfish or goby and pistol shrimp pair
  • Longnose hawkfish
  • Biota Blue Streak Cleaner wrasse
  • Pair of Pink streak wrasse
  • 2 Yellow Canary Wrasses
  • 1 Azure Damselfish
  • Biota Multibar Angelfish
  • Pintail Fairy wrasse
  • Naoko Fairy wrasse
  • Diamond Tail Flasher wrasse
  • McCosckers Flasher wrasse
Just my 2 cents here, but that seems like a massive amount of fish for that size tank.
 

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I have a 75 gallon aquarium(40’ by 24’ by 20’). I have a fish list which I have done a lot of research on. However, I would like to know if there are any compatibility problems that I am unaware of as well as possible better alternatives. Any recommendations or words of advise are much appreciated!

  • White tail Bristletooth tang
  • Biota Yellow Tang
  • Biota Court Jester Goby
  • Orange Clown Goby
  • Biota Royal gramma
  • Purple tilefish
  • Pair of Ocellaris Clownfish
  • Pair of Bella Sleeper Gobies
  • Copperband butterfly fish or long nose butterfly fish
  • Ruby Red Dragonet
  • Bicolor Blenny
  • Fathead Sunburst Anthias
  • Jawfish or goby and pistol shrimp pair
  • Longnose hawkfish
  • Biota Blue Streak Cleaner wrasse
  • Pair of Pink streak wrasse
  • 2 Yellow Canary Wrasses
  • 1 Azure Damselfish
  • Biota Multibar Angelfish
  • Pintail Fairy wrasse
  • Naoko Fairy wrasse
  • Diamond Tail Flasher wrasse
  • McCosckers Flasher wrasse
Yeah no. Way too many fish. Thats more fish than my stock list for a 300 gallon… cut that down quite a bit then repost so we can help
 

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Oh my. Yeah. Way, way, way too many fish. As stated, pare that down significantly and repost. Back in 1991, with my very first tank, I got some really bad advise from a local Petco on how many fish I could put in a 29g. There was much in the way of death........
 

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You going to need a 300g for that many fish. Otherwise either disease or aggression will whittle that number down for you.
 
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You going to need a 300g for that many fish. Otherwise either disease or aggression will whittle that number down for you.
The only fish that are on the more aggressive side are the Naoko Fairy wrasse and Azure damsel. They are all very peaceful fish and there wouldn’t be any complete bullies besides maybe the yellow tang when it gets bigger but I would get it at about 1-1.5 inches from biota. As for nutrients I will be running an oversized sump with a cryptic fuge, a normal refugium with deep sand bed, and an oversized skimmer due to the fish/bio load. I am not really worried about the nutrient export and its effectiveness. I have seen tanks with similar levels of stocking if not more. While it may be a large number of fish, many of the fish are very small and bring minimal additions in terms of bio load. With this said, I know it will be difficult but I have many tanks and I am prepared to isolate and remove fish if necessary.
 
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Additionally, my tank is a peninsula and provides areas to swim on every side around the rockwork. It has much more swimming space than a normal tank would have due to it being a peninsula.
 

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The only fish that are on the more aggressive side are the Naoko Fairy wrasse and Azure damsel. They are all very peaceful fish and there wouldn’t be any complete bullies besides maybe the yellow tang when it gets bigger but I would get it at about 1-1.5 inches from biota. As for nutrients I will be running an oversized sump with a cryptic fuge, a normal refugium with deep sand bed, and an oversized skimmer due to the fish/bio load. I am not really worried about the nutrient export and its effectiveness. I have seen tanks with similar levels of stocking if not more. While it may be a large number of fish, many of the fish are very small and bring minimal additions in terms of bio load. With this said, I know it will be difficult but I have many tanks and I am prepared to isolate and remove fish if necessary.
Doesnt matter, way too many fish. If this tank was a whole lot bigger than sure it would be fine. 75 gallon no. Trust everyone on that who also said the same
 

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You ask for advice, get advice, yet do the opposite of the advice you were given.

I am half joking. I know how exciting it is to add fish in and all. But adding in too many fish will lead to problems that make this hobby very difficult. I suggest patience and research to have the best possible experience.
 
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nothing you have said in the past 2 messages changes my experienced opinion that your list includes at least 2x the amount of fish you should have in a tank that size. I don't mean to be confrontational, but I assume you're here on this forum for practical experience, and that's what I can offer.

How about get a bigger tank?
 
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How about get a bigger tank?
I wish!
nothing you have said in the past 2 messages changes my experienced opinion that your list includes at least 2x the amount of fish you should have in a tank that size. I don't mean to be confrontational, but I assume you're here on this forum for practical experience, and that's what I can offer.
Thanks for you advise! I guess i’ll have to chop down my list a bit.
 
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Doesnt matter, way too many fish. If this tank was a whole lot bigger than sure it would be fine. 75 gallon no. Trust everyone on that who also said the same
So your saying that there would just be too much aggression, as well as an excess of possible stress factors on the fish. Correct?

Thanks for all of your help!
 

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So your saying that there would just be too much aggression, as well as an excess of possible stress factors on the fish. Correct?

Thanks for all of your help!
Whether it's aggression, bioload, or habitat availability the stocking number is just too large by any reasonable metric, the goal here is to provide a healthy and happy habitat for the animals - the list is too large to account for responsible husbandry.
 

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The only fish that are on the more aggressive side are the Naoko Fairy wrasse and Azure damsel. They are all very peaceful fish and there wouldn’t be any complete bullies besides maybe the yellow tang when it gets bigger but I would get it at about 1-1.5 inches from biota. As for nutrients I will be running an oversized sump with a cryptic fuge, a normal refugium with deep sand bed, and an oversized skimmer due to the fish/bio load. I am not really worried about the nutrient export and its effectiveness. I have seen tanks with similar levels of stocking if not more. While it may be a large number of fish, many of the fish are very small and bring minimal additions in terms of bio load. With this said, I know it will be difficult but I have many tanks and I am prepared to isolate and remove fish if necessary.

Peaceful fish are not peaceful when crowded. Some peaceful/shy Fish that are overly crowded are nervous.

You have more aggressive fish than just your yellow.

I don’t care about nutrient export, I’m not concerned with that. I am telling you there isn’t enough space or territory for all these fish to live a stress free life.
 

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I have a boita multibar angelfish and it is extremely a dick head and it’s in a 6ft 150g, I am actually going to remove it to a different tank as it harasses my clowns, gramma, damsel all day long. Ya it was small but that was a few years ago, it’s bigger now and it’s a butt. I love her but she’s a total butthead.

Angelfish are semi aggressive.

I see several semi aggressive fish on your list, two tangs, clowns, angelfish, damsel, hawkish, Naoko just looking at it quickly.

You can go ahead and not believe me but good chance you will end up with less fish one way or another when they won’t tolerate each other or the shyer ones are so overwhelmed they don’t eat enough and “mysteriously” disappear one day.
 
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Doesnt matter, way too many fish. If this tank was a whole lot bigger than sure it would be fine. 75 gallon no. Trust everyone on that who also said the same
+500. I'm looking at a 48x39x25 (203g) and have 13 fish on my list when its time to launch. And I consider THAT to be on the heavy side (I'm in the midst of crossing fish OFF that list). You have 27 if I counted correctly (more if you intend on sticking to Anthias PLURAL). What your essentially doing is placing your livestock in jeopardy. By choice. This goes against just about every (no....every) good husbandry rule in the book.
 

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The only fish that are on the more aggressive side are the Naoko Fairy wrasse and Azure damsel. They are all very peaceful fish and there wouldn’t be any complete bullies besides maybe the yellow tang when it gets bigger but I would get it at about 1-1.5 inches from biota. As for nutrients I will be running an oversized sump with a cryptic fuge, a normal refugium with deep sand bed, and an oversized skimmer due to the fish/bio load. I am not really worried about the nutrient export and its effectiveness. I have seen tanks with similar levels of stocking if not more. While it may be a large number of fish, many of the fish are very small and bring minimal additions in terms of bio load. With this said, I know it will be difficult but I have many tanks and I am prepared to isolate and remove fish if necessary.
I have a very stocked 75 gal with at least 15-16 fish at one point and even i think thats ton of fish. Your going to need like a 55 gallon sump to support all those fish, and even then your going to be doing water changes every week. You also have a lot of compatibility issues and the small space is going to make it so much worse.

So IMO i would loose at least 12-13 fish, and remove all the pairs except the clownfish from that list and then come back and see if theres still any compatibility issues.

Some good ones to remove are the:

Yellow or tomni tang
Butterfly
Anthias
Canary wrasse
Naoko

You still have to remove a lot more but these are some top ones.
 

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