Hammer health

[GHOSTLY]

Since 4ish months ago this hammer has never really been fully extended. Its always been closed, tucked, or just in a bad mood. I never really asked cause I know euphyllia can be finicky sometimes but more recently it looks worse

The gold hammers closed up a bit cause I just fed it but the purples skeletons starting to show more often and the polyps are more deflated. Can't be flatworms so im not too sure. Ive tried low flow, high flow, low light, high light and nothing works

Alk 8.4
Ph 8.1
Nitrate 5
Phos .1 - .25 (bringing down slowly with phosguard)
Mag 1400 (about to start dosing afr)

 

[Naekuh]

its not good when you can see skeleton like that...
i would keep the head away from the healthy ones.

Could mean either it just died from somethign random, or it can be a paracyte, or a bacteria.
regardless, when i see a head shrink and only skeleton remain, i try to keep that head away from the healthy branch if possible.

 

[GHOSTLY]

its not good when you can see skeleton like that...
i would keep the head away from the healthy ones.

Could mean either it just died from somethign random, or it can be a paracyte, or a bacteria.
regardless, when i see a head shrink and only skeleton remain, i try to keep that head away from the healthy branch if possible.

Ill move it away first but its weird, this piece has never done too well or has never been super happy

 

[NanoSteam]

its not good when you can see skeleton like that...
i would keep the head away from the healthy ones.

Could mean either it just died from somethign random, or it can be a paracyte, or a bacteria.
regardless, when i see a head shrink and only skeleton remain, i try to keep that head away from the healthy branch if possible.

This... looks like it's on it's way out and you don't want to risk something jumping and infecting the other hammer.

 

[GHOSTLY]

I just moved it away, should I toss the frag?

 

[Naekuh]

I just moved it away, should I toss the frag?

nah give it a few days... if it puffs up again, it could slightly recover.. but id say your chance is like less then 20%.

Ive had heads look really bad to come out really nice after a couple of days, but those were rare occasions and because something really really irritated it.. like a shrimp trying to play jackpot and seeing if it can get a free snack or something.

 

[GHOSTLY]

I just moved it away, should I toss the frag?

nah give it a few days... if it puffs up again, it could slightly recover.. but id say your chance is like less then 20%.

Ive had heads look really bad to come out really nice after a couple of days, but those were rare occasions and because something really really irritated it.. like a shrimp trying to play jackpot and seeing if it can get a free snack or something.

Should i try spot feeding it to see if it decides to extend again? It was half open yesterday but worse tdy

 

[Indiana Reefin]

I would try dipping in iodine

 

[NanoSteam]

Should i try spot feeding it to see if it decides to extend again? It was half open yesterday but worse tdy

No don't do that, best thing you can do right now is what @Indiana Reefin suggested and do an Iodine dip then put it somewhere with low flow.

 

[Naekuh]

Should i try spot feeding it to see if it decides to extend again? It was half open yesterday but worse tdy

no.. you can try to dip it like indiana says.
But i would not do anything else with it.
At this point the flesh will either fall off, and you'll get a skeleton, or the flesh will poof back up, and regrow out to the skeleton.

But as i said once its that gone... at best im guessing 20% and that might be generous guess too.

 

[GHOSTLY]

That sucks ill try dipping tn

 

[BryanM]

All you can do is try, so the iodine dip seems like a good idea. Lower flow also seems good.

I would personally spot feed it. I like benereef for this if you have it, otherwise mysis, or both.

 

[mcarroll]

Alk 8.4
Ph 8.1
Nitrate 5
Phos .1 - .25 (bringing down slowly with phosguard)
Mag 1400 (about to start dosing afr)

Seems good overall, but does it seem like po4 is out of balance with NO3? How are you testing so we have an idea of the accuracy/precision?

I would not lower PO4, but instead try to let NO3 come up a bit.

(Does AFR relate to magnesium somehow? ≥1300 ppm is good for Mg.)

How old is this tank, BTW?

How strong are your lights?

 

[GHOSTLY]

Seems good overall, but does it seem like po4 is out of balance with NO3? How are you testing so we have an idea of the accuracy/precision?

I would not lower PO4, but instead try to let NO3 come up a bit.

(Does AFR relate to magnesium somehow? ≥1300 ppm is good for Mg.)

How old is this tank, BTW?

How strong are your lights?

Testing with hanna and saliferts.
Reason no4 is out of balance is because the live rock I bought from came from a system with high po4 (.7).

I keep a lot of acros and my alk consumption rate a week is around .4- .9 so that's why I wanna dose adr.

Tank is a month old but using established live rock, sand, media, and 50% of original water

Radion g4 at 56% ab+ spectrum, par in that area is around 120

Note: I don't wanna bring my nitrate up as much since the majority of my acros are colored up or are coloring up more around this range

 

[mcarroll]

Testing with hanna and saliferts.
Reason no4 is out of balance is because the live rock I bought from came from a system with high po4 (.7).

I keep a lot of acros and my alk consumption rate a week is around .4- .9 so that's why I wanna dose adr.

Makes sense then – so nothing is really "off" in a mysterious way. IMO it will balance out in the long run and don't worry about it.

Tank is a month old but using established live rock, sand, media, and 50% of original water

Radion g4 at 56% ab+ spectrum, par in that area is around 120

So very new. Seems like a good quality of light.

Note: I don't wanna bring my nitrate up as much since the majority of my acros are colored up or are coloring up more around this range

I wasn't thinking in terms of dosing N up, just easing up on anything you might be doing to "suppress" it....carbon dosing, excess bio-media, excess mechanical filtration, macro-refugium, etc.

If in use, those things could be "paused" or "toned down" to potentially make up the difference in N. Almost better than doing nothing?

 

[GHOSTLY]

Makes sense then – so nothing is really "off" in a mysterious way. IMO it will balance out in the long run and don't worry about it.


So very new. Seems like a good quality of light.


I wasn't thinking in terms of dosing N up, just easing up on anything you might be doing to "suppress" it....carbon dosing, excess bio-media, excess mechanical filtration, macro-refugium, etc.

If in use, those things could be "paused" or "toned down" to potentially make up the difference in N. Almost better than doing nothing?

I dosed carbon since the rock had high nitrate too but its been brought down super slowly. Im controlling it just so that I can stabilize better. I found nothing changes and I dose everyday. Its sad cause this specific hammer just has never done too good, hopefully it recovers but I don't wanna change too much just for one piece. I did dip it and it seems to open up a bit more