How I beat ich without QT

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I am no expert on ich because my fish have never had it even once since I started saltwater in 2007.
I will defer to the experts who seem to get it over and over again. I am sure they know more about it.
What is your method for avoiding ich?
 

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What is your method for avoiding ich?
I don't avoid it. In fact I don't even think about it. I have been keeping fish a long time. I place fish in a tank that emulates the sea as closely as possible, with live rock and high flow. Then I feed them well with a variety of frozen foods. It has always worked for me.
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I don't avoid it. In fact I don't even think about it. I have been keeping fish a long time. I place fish in a tank that emulates the sea as closely as possible, with live rock and high flow. Then I feed them well with a variety of frozen foods. I has always worked for me.
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What do you think the difference is between you and people that have fish that die from ich? Is it just the food? What kind of food do you feed?
 
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What do you think the difference is between you and people that have fish that die from ich? Is it just the food? What kind of food do you feed?
I feed LRS Reef Frenzy, Herbivore Frenzy, Mid Jersey Angel Diet and Reef Pro, Live white worms, Frozen, mysis shrimp plus stuff for the eels like squid and silversides.
I think it is the entire package though. Biodiversity in the tank, flow and varied feeding so a fish doesn't become nutritionally deficient in any way. Effective filtration that maintains excellent water quality. I am not talking about particulates you can catch in a filter sock, I don't even use those.
Make your tank as much like the sea as you can. It can never be a perfect copy. But if you get close enough I think a fish can stay healthy and shrug off the challenges it would normally be able to cope with in the ocean.

I strongly suspect that ich isn't a powerful swimmer. Decent flow may be able to disrupt it's life cycle by making it difficult to find fish in large numbers and return to the bottom to encyst. I do not turn it down at night either. `I also suspect the normal microfauna of a tank has some members that eat the cycts they find since almost everything in the sea is food for something.

A human placed in a small sterile space with stale air and a monotonous diet would not thrive. Neither will a fish.
 
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I feed LRS Reef Frenzy, Herbivore Frenzy, Mid Jersey Angel Diet and Reef Pro, Live white worms, Frozen, mysis shrimp plus stuff for the eels like squid and silversides.
I think it is the entire package though. Biodiversity in the tank, flow and varied feeding so a fish doesn't become nutritionally deficient in any way. Effective filtration that maintains excellent water quality. I am not talking about particulates you can catch in a filter sock, I don't even use those.
Make your tank as much like the sea as you can. It can never be a perfect copy. But if you get close enough I think a fish can stay healthy and shrug off the challenges it would normally be able to cope with in the ocean.

I strongly suspect that ich isn't a powerful swimmer. Decent flow may be able to disrupt it's life cycle by making it difficult to find fish in large numbers and return to the bottom to encyst. I do not turn it down at night either. `I also suspect the normal microfauna of a tank has some members that eat the cycts they find since almost everything in the sea is food for something.

A human placed in a small sterile space stale air and a monotonous diet would not thrive. Neither will a fish.
Is there a certain amount of time you wait for your tank to become established before introducing fish?
 

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Is there a certain amount of time you wait for your tank to become established before introducing fish?
Fish go in as soon as it becomes stable with no ammonia. I have done several tank upgrades but only 2 tank starts.
About 10 days say the dates on the pics. I generally start slowly adding fish as soon as the ammonia goes away.
 

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