How to Quarantine

[Brew12]

To be honest, this is something I've wondered about. Tomonts can encyst to sand, and what if a free swimmer emerged & quickly latched on to a sand burrowing fish before copper/Chloroquine disabled it? But the same thing could happen if a fish was sleeping on the bottom, and a free swimmer emerged from a tomont stuck to the bottom glass. So much we know, so much we don't know...

I would have slept better tonight not thinking about this....

 

[HotRocks]

I would have slept better tonight not thinking about this....

Yeah thanks for that Bobby! (As I sit here now wondering about all the sand burrowing wrasses I currently have in QT, especially the two choat's I have in QT, with copper).

 

[Humblefish]

I would have slept better tonight not thinking about this....

Yeah thanks for that Bobby! (As I sit here now wondering about all the sand burrowing wrasses I currently have in QT, especially the two choat's I have in QT, with copper).

People tell me I analyze things too deeply

The Burgess 1992 thesis which showed that a tomont could encyst to a mullet scale (even though the mucous degenerated it) is what bothers me the mostest.

 

[Brew12]

People tell me I analyze things too deeply

The Burgess 1992 thesis which showed that a tomont could encyst to a mullet scale (even though the mucous degenerated it) is what bothers me the mostest.

I dislike fish parasites.

 

[JCTReefer]

Sorry for the question, but it's been bugging me all morning. Being in such close proximity with the sand makes me wonder. I would think the copper would penetrate all the way to the bottom of the sand bed through water around the grains. But, if a cyst that was attached to a grain of sand hatched, I'm not sure how long it takes for the free swimmers to be disabled. I wonder if cyst would be in higher concentrations at the top of the sand bed. I'm not sure really[emoji848] Guess I could remove the sand. The wrasse was still sleeping on the bottom before it found the sand though.. I tend to over think things sometimes[emoji23] If y'all come up with any conclusions keep me posted[emoji2]

 

[JCTReefer]

The Burgess 1992 thesis which showed that a tomont could encyst to a mullet scale (even though the mucous degenerated it) is what bothers me the mostest.

I started reading this study a bit ago. Think I'll have to save it for an early morning read when my brain is working more efficiently. Looks like an interesting/informative study!

 

[andys]

Probably stresses the fish out being caught & transferred so frequently; but the important thing is that you have enough tanks/equipment to do 12 hour transfers (all tanks/equipment must be thoroughly sterilized before being used for TTM purposes.)

Humblefish trust me I’m worn out from doing this every 12 hours. I have 3 sets of everything so I’m good there. Question now is moving them ever 12 hours would that cut down the time i can take them out of TTM treatment ?

 

[Humblefish]

Question now is moving them ever 12 hours would that cut down the time i can take them out of TTM treatment ?

Unfortunately, no matter how frequently you do the transfers the total number of days to pass should be 12 OR more, NOT less. At least in order to fully eradicate ich.

 

[andys]

Well I’m half way through. Do you think a cap full of prime will get me 24 hours on a single tank.

 

[Smo]

The Bucket Transfer Quarantine Method (see below link) recommends transfers every 24 hours. I am intrigued by this method because as they suggest--it is scalable, uses less water, can be performed with meds and is easily taken down when not in use.

https://www.reef2rainforest.com/2017/02/10/bucket-transfer-qt-method/

 

[vriserva25]

Hey I Just did a 5 gal water change on my 20 gal QT and my tests came back ammonia reading between .25 and .50 ppm on the api test and copper power is the only thing I've used so far and the hanna checker came back 2.66 copper. 3 weeks into quarantine after NOT doing it before my last addition and I had to break down my whole tank because 2 tangs and 6 line wrasse showing ich in DT. Long story short everyone was doing great until yesterday I lost powder blue after only showing fatigue and having breathing for 24hrs and he was the strongest throughout all of this now I dont know what the issue is and im inexperienced with mostly all.of the hobby I want to learn and not repeat mistakes/ form bad habits for the fish sake(and my pockets)

 

[HotRocks]

Hey I Just did a 5 gal water change on my 20 gal QT and my tests came back ammonia reading between .25 and .50 ppm on the api test and copper power is the only thing I've used so far and the hanna checker came back 2.66 copper. 3 weeks into quarantine after NOT doing it before my last addition and I had to break down my whole tank because 2 tangs and 6 line wrasse showing ich in DT. Long story short everyone was doing great until yesterday I lost powder blue after only showing fatigue and having breathing for 24hrs and he was the strongest throughout all of this now I dont know what the issue is and im inexperienced with mostly all.of the hobby I want to learn and not repeat mistakes/ form bad habits for the fish sake(and my pockets)

I would do another WC, larger in size. That much Ammonia is still enough to be toxic for any length of time

 

[LouieP]

Hey I Just did a 5 gal water change on my 20 gal QT and my tests came back ammonia reading between .25 and .50 ppm on the api test and copper power is the only thing I've used so far and the hanna checker came back 2.66 copper. 3 weeks into quarantine after NOT doing it before my last addition and I had to break down my whole tank because 2 tangs and 6 line wrasse showing ich in DT. Long story short everyone was doing great until yesterday I lost powder blue after only showing fatigue and having breathing for 24hrs and he was the strongest throughout all of this now I dont know what the issue is and im inexperienced with mostly all.of the hobby I want to learn and not repeat mistakes/ form bad habits for the fish sake(and my pockets)

After reading the articles from Humblefish & others, you need to get seachem nh3 alert. You will get false positive results w nh3 test kits. Also you should be 1.5-2.5 ppm for copper power. I try to stay around 1.75-2.00.

 

[vriserva25]

Hey I Just did a 5 gal water change on my 20 gal QT and my tests came back ammonia reading between .25 and .50 ppm on the api test and copper power is the only thing I've used so far and the hanna checker came back 2.66 copper. 3 weeks into quarantine after NOT doing it before my last addition and I had to break down my whole tank because 2 tangs and 6 line wrasse showing ich in DT. Long story short everyone was doing great until yesterday I lost powder blue after only showing fatigue and having breathing for 24hrs and he was the strongest throughout all of this now I dont know what the issue is and im inexperienced with mostly all.of the hobby I want to learn and not repeat mistakes/ form bad habits for the fish sake(and my pockets)

Hippo is showing slightly bumpy skin and spots but doesn't look like the same ich salty/sugar spots more like pimples

 

[4FordFamily]

Hippo is showing slightly bumpy skin and spots but doesn't look like the same ich salty/sugar spots more like pimples

Some hippo seem to get skin reactions to copper. How long has she been in it? Is it worsening?

 

[vriserva25]

After reading the articles from Humblefish & others, you need to get seachem nh3 alert. You will get false positive results w nh3 test kits. Also you should be 1.5-2.5 ppm for copper power. I try to stay around 1.75-2.00.

Yes I have the alert badge I can't seem to tell the reading on it since day 1

 

[LouieP]

Yes I have the alert badge I can't seem to tell the reading on it since day 1

That looks safe to me.

 

[vriserva25]

Some hippo seem to get skin reactions to copper. How long has she been in it? Is it worsening?

This is day 25 and just showing for the past 2-3 days or so

 

[vriserva25]

That looks safe to me.

How certain is the color supposed to be on the badge does it read distinctly towards one section?

 

[4FordFamily]

This is day 25 and just showing for the past 2-3 days or so

I’d ride it out until 30 days. I’ve seen this on a few hippos, doesn’t seem to be fatal if it doesn’t significantly worsen or the copper clock is up soon.