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This is very unfortunate.
As I said before, I don’t think many people really appreciate the tenacity that some “environmental” organizations (I’m told really just a group of lawyers and media consultant) are targeting this hobby.
I really think it’s because were easy target, compared to commercial or recreational fishery.
And I’ll kinds of other band like are frequently pripised, some of which fortunately our counter. But, still there some hobbyists you don’t think there’s a problem. See this other thread, Where US FWS essentially (as i understand it) considered banning giant clams:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/giant-clams-could-have-been-banned-in-2016.386018/#post-4686169
The problem with shut downs is like what most likely happened to Walt is the margins are low and they go out of business quick. There was a post on FB about that too.. Even if Hawaii would open by some miracle it may be too late for some.
Lived in Hawaii for five years 20+ years ago.This is very unfortunate.
As I said before, I don’t think many people really appreciate the tenacity that some “environmental” organizations (I’m told really just a group of lawyers and media consultant) are targeting this hobby.
I really think it’s because were easy target, compared to commercial or recreational fishery.
And I’ll kinds of other band like are frequently pripised, some of which fortunately our counter. But, still there some hobbyists you don’t think there’s a problem. See this other thread, Where US FWS essentially (as i understand it) considered banning giant clams:
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/giant-clams-could-have-been-banned-in-2016.386018/#post-4686169
The locals have been warned since 2015 but the thing about Indonesian people is, they won't listen and wouldn't care until it happens, then they blame the government. Typical........What i don’t understand about these bans, indo and fiji, is that there js no warning. Everyone who went to bed thinking they were going to work in the morning woke up to devastating news. The governments that impliment these bans have to see it coming and why can’t they get the word out before hand? Or instead of banning how about you set new rules and regulations to correct the problem before it gets to a point where its out of hand. Take some corrective action.
In my opinion this is only the begining, we haven’t even come close to seeing the worst of it yet. Even if the bans get turned around its going to be a uphill battle until everyone in the industry and hobby realizes wild caught animals are a thing of the past. With all the climate issues, populations increasing, delcining reefs, there is absolutely no way these situations will ever get better. The only solution is aquacultured coral. Unless everyone on the face of this earth wakes up, realizes all these issues, and changes.
What i don’t understand about these bans, indo and fiji, is that there js no warning. Everyone who went to bed thinking they were going to work in the morning woke up to devastating news. The governments that impliment these bans have to see it coming and why can’t they get the word out before hand? Or instead of banning how about you set new rules and regulations to correct the problem before it gets to a point where its out of hand. Take some corrective action.
In my opinion this is only the begining, we haven’t even come close to seeing the worst of it yet. Even if the bans get turned around its going to be a uphill battle until everyone in the industry and hobby realizes wild caught animals are a thing of the past. With all the climate issues, populations increasing, delcining reefs, there is absolutely no way these situations will ever get better. The only solution is aquacultured coral. Unless everyone on the face of this earth wakes up, realizes all these issues, and changes.
Several decades ago all metal in ground gasoline tanks needed to be replaced due to deterioration and leaking gasoline into ground water across the USA.What i don’t understand about these bans, indo and fiji, is that there js no warning. Everyone who went to bed thinking they were going to work in the morning woke up to devastating news. The governments that impliment these bans have to see it coming and why can’t they get the word out before hand? Or instead of banning how about you set new rules and regulations to correct the problem before it gets to a point where its out of hand. Take some corrective action.
In my opinion this is only the begining, we haven’t even come close to seeing the worst of it yet. Even if the bans get turned around its going to be a uphill battle until everyone in the industry and hobby realizes wild caught animals are a thing of the past. With all the climate issues, populations increasing, delcining reefs, there is absolutely no way these situations will ever get better. The only solution is aquacultured coral. Unless everyone on the face of this earth wakes up, realizes all these issues, and changes.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic here.I hate to hear about people losing their jobs and business.
We aquaculture corals to seed reefs in Florida. Why not just go to aqua-cultured corals for the hobby? It may cost more for corals and you may not get everything you would like but I think it would make people more conscious about caring for the live stock. Same with fish. Just go to aqua cultured. It’s not easy but not impossible. It will cost more but not impossible.
Is it just cost that makes a lot of people want harvested livestock? Won’t people still be able to work at cultured facilities? It would be a transition for sure. Just thinking out loud.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic here.
But how big a tank and how many fish would a company need to get Tangs to spawn? Is this something that can even be done in large public aquariums, like the Tennessee or Georgia Aquariums?
If it takes something that sized it's not going to be economically feasible for a company to do.