Yeah, I agree. I read this yesterday and again just now. I'm sorry, but I agree. What you're doing now is cruel.
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Do you need to speed ship this stuff or standard shipping?Live white worms, Live black worms
Ova, specifically this brand for mandarins (you can find it on amazon as well):
Coral Feast Ova
New coral reef food blend. Highly nutritional blend of whole organism zooplankton eggs (ova) of various species. Hatching coral food.www.aquaculturenurseryfarms.com
It is super fresh so you will need to freeze portions as no way it will last in the fridge.
Also try to make a mesh feeder like @Paul B uses for the fresh baby brine
A sale on a mandarin does not save money if you have to buy pods
Do you need to speed ship this stuff or standard shipping?
So, are all the eggs in this product viable, or just the sea monkeys?The thing is.. it is not a frozen product and it will go bad quickly before you could ever use it up so be ready to freeze it in cubes before it spoils.
So, are all the eggs in this product viable, or just the sea monkeys?
PM me with your address. We'll get a bottle of pods and a bottle of baby brine shrimp out to you on Monday, free of charge. That won't solve your problem in the long-term - you'll need lots more pods for that (or be able to train him onto prepared foods) but it will buy you some time!I ordered some fish about 2 weeks ago and the site I ordered from had a great deal on mandarins (we’ve wanted one for a long time now). I’m assuming it’s wild caught (yes, first mistake we know).
We ordered some copepods at the same time to beef up the tank’s supply. We knew we’d have to train it to eat normal foods and after going through a lot of threads and YouTube videos, nothing is working!
The Setup:
He went into a 40g, old display tank with all original live rock (tank is now our “observation tank”). Hard to say if the tank still had a decent supply of copepods but either way we added some jars from AlgaeBarn.
For the first two weeks we just let him roam free but he didn’t seem interested in any foods we offered. So on YouTube advice we moved him to a large mesh isolation box in order to target feed and observe better last weekend.
Foods Tried (with and without garlic):
Frozen mysis
Bloodworms
Arctipods
Can O’ Cyclops
Live hatched baby brines
Pellets
Flakes
He couldn’t care less about any of these foods. He doesn’t mind the target feeder, but I can put these foods right in front of his face and he’ll just stare at them and eventually swim away. He’s been losing weight over the past 2.5 weeks and today his belly is so sunken! It’s too late this week to order more live copepods and I thought the smaller basket plus bloodworms might hopefully work (the latest recommended food). No luck.
If he survives to next week I can get more copepods and move him back to the rock. But, it doesn’t solve the problem of getting him onto regular foods short or long term even assuming I can keep him alive with copepod orders alone.
Any tips and tricks I’m missing?! I'm worried he's going to starve to death at this point.
He's very cute:
Thanks I got my order in@Lavey29
they have this on the website. I would just use the free ship option. I am pretty positive I did free shipping.
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As opposed to…euthanizing him? Again, no reefers locally so rehoming isn’t an option. Cruel implies intention. I did not intend for him to not eat. When I bought the fish I also bought $100 worth of pods and since he’s had feeding difficulties I’ve spent a bunch more money trying this food or that and I’m spending more this weekend and will continue to do so into the future. Please, and this is the whole point of me making this thread, if you have something constructive to add to help this fish then please chime in. Otherwise **** with your sanctimonious, unhelpful judgement of a situation I cannot control. Please troll elsewhere.Yeah, I agree. I read this yesterday and again just now. I'm sorry, but I agree. What you're doing now is cruel.
No, but YOU are however waiting until it is almost too late to do anything now at this point to save him when YOU knew days ago he was starving. Anything that is starving to death is the cruelest and most painful way to die.As opposed to…euthanizing him? Again, no reefers locally so rehoming isn’t an option. Cruel implies intention. I did not intend for him to not eat. When I bought the fish I also bought $100 worth of pods and since he’s had feeding difficulties I’ve spent a bunch more money trying this food or that and I’m spending more this weekend and will continue to do so into the future. Please, and this is the whole point of me making this thread, if you have something constructive to add to help this fish then please chime in. Otherwise **** with your sanctimonious, unhelpful judgement of a situation I cannot control. Please troll elsewhere.
Good-ish news; my baby brine plus copepod plus blood worm smoothie produced some pecking behavior. Not where I target fed the food, but he was definitely pecking after the feeding. He’s definitely thin, but it’s possible I’ve been a bit dramatic and un-patient. Perhaps he’s been eating more of the food I’ve been offering than I’ve realized. He’s still getting around quite a bit.
Horrible news; my beautiful $200 blue spot jaw fish jumped to his death despite a full hood QT tank! One inch gap around the HOB filter was all it took.
Dont blue spot jawfish require cooler water temps?
As opposed to…euthanizing him? Again, no reefers locally so rehoming isn’t an option. Cruel implies intention. I did not intend for him to not eat. When I bought the fish I also bought $100 worth of pods and since he’s had feeding difficulties I’ve spent a bunch more money trying this food or that and I’m spending more this weekend and will continue to do so into the future. Please, and this is the whole point of me making this thread, if you have something constructive to add to help this fish then please chime in. Otherwise **** with your sanctimonious, unhelpful judgement of a situation I cannot control. Please troll elsewhere.
Good-ish news; my baby brine plus copepod plus blood worm smoothie produced some pecking behavior. Not where I target fed the food, but he was definitely pecking after the feeding. He’s definitely thin, but it’s possible I’ve been a bit dramatic and un-patient. Perhaps he’s been eating more of the food I’ve been offering than I’ve realized. He’s still getting around quite a bit.
Horrible news; my beautiful $200 blue spot jaw fish jumped to his death despite a full hood QT tank! One inch gap around the HOB filter was all it took.
Good idea!Two weeks is likely not enough time. While many wild caught mandarins eventually can be trained to eat other foods, many will never eat anything but live pods/brine/etc.
Can you reach out to your local reefing community to find some pods? The best way to train, IMO, is to target feed some pods along with another food (including brine shrimp) and hopefully the fish will accidentally eat the other food and eventually decide he likes it.
Purchasing many different types of food in hopes the fish will begin to eat, is cruel??Yeah, I agree. I read this yesterday and again just now. I'm sorry, but I agree. What you're doing now is cruel.