Think I heard it requires a newer controller... $$$
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That is goodThe one thing I will not fault them on is the cost of the reagents. The cost per test works out to something like 5 cents for alk and 11 cents each for Ca and Mg. Compare that to Salifert, which would be 14 cents per test for alk and around 34 cents per test for Ca and Mg.
Not sure on the math, but assuming your calculations are correct I think it's fair to point out Neptune's plan is for you to spend the 40$ every two months generating another $240 in sales over the course of year. I know you can edit the frequency of dosing, but making the 4x/2x/2x daily will probably be the standard for most people.The one thing I will not fault them on is the cost of the reagents. The cost per test works out to something like 5 cents for alk and 11 cents each for Ca and Mg. Compare that to Salifert, which would be 14 cents per test for alk and around 34 cents per test for Ca and Mg.
Im in for this, bundle 2016 Base unit and Trident for a deal, good excuse to upgrade from classic brain but keep as spare/back up.
Coralvue, GHL, Focustronic just made redundant if Trident works and is accurate and priced as described. ALK monitor/control only just a third of the solution, Neptune whooped yo ***. Great work Neptune, and glad to see its not totally orange! Roll on Q2 2018
Yea, I would love to have this capability for my tank but to be honest I doubt I will. A new Apex will be $800-$1000, this unit will cost $500-$600 plus it might require you to use their dosing system which is $450, so in total to use their testing system it will be ~$2400-$2600 plus year reagent cost. I just can't justify spending that much.Especially since this is 1300 dollars+ to test (you can't disregard the price of a new apex when it's actually a requirement for the test) while the others are sub 1000?
Ca and Mg are FAR from gimmicks. A loaded sps tank with clams fluctuates calcium often and if you do ever test for something(even if you say once a month), it is already great to be able to monitor it. Over and over we read people dumping Ca and Alk while still not getting proper dkh. Most times people dont pay attention to Mg and fail because they only focus on alk and Ca.Mg and Ca are gimmicks. No one tests them at all at that frequency, and most dosing systems really tell you to test alk and adjust all dosing accordingly. So how does that make anyone else redundant? Especially since this is 1300 dollars+ to test (you can't disregard the price of a new apex when it's actually a requirement for the test) while the others are sub 1000?
Ca and Mg are FAR from gimmicks. A loaded sps tank with clams fluctuates calcium often and if you do ever test for something(even if you say once a month), it is already great to be able to monitor it. Over and over we read people dumping Ca and Alk while still not getting proper dkh. Most times people dont pay attention to Mg and fail because they only focus on alk and Ca.
Getting away with your math, you say spending an extra $300 and getting a controller, lab probes, 8 controlled outlets and most and foremost Fusion(by far the best out there) as interface is less attractive than a sole $1,000 Kh monitor(clearly overpriced)?
Yes since I have fusion(so what I can't update from my phone) and only care enough about alk as I'm doing the triton method and with my triton test I get magnesium and calcium yes a 1000 dollar alk monitor sounds better to me. And alktronics alk monitor is priced for under 800 dollars so that's now 600 dollars cheaper.Ca and Mg are FAR from gimmicks. A loaded sps tank with clams fluctuates calcium often and if you do ever test for something(even if you say once a month), it is already great to be able to monitor it. Over and over we read people dumping Ca and Alk while still not getting proper dkh. Most times people dont pay attention to Mg and fail because they only focus on alk and Ca.
Getting away with your math, you say spending an extra $300 and getting a controller, lab probes, 8 controlled outlets and most and foremost Fusion(by far the best out there) as interface is less attractive than a sole $1,000 Kh monitor(clearly overpriced)?
This would be a great time for a new competitor to emerge to provide choice to consumers. Other companies have tried but so far nothing in my view matches the feature set and price/reliability ratio of neptune. By this monopoly marketing, customers are ready to jump ship if just a viable competitor would emerge.
Why not I did !Can I share this post to another reefing group in my area?
This would be a great time for a new competitor to emerge to provide choice to consumers. Other companies have tried but so far nothing in my view matches the feature set and price/reliability ratio of neptune. By this monopoly marketing, customers are ready to jump ship if just a viable competitor would emerge.
Very true! Information is always important for our hobby! I hate how someone with a new tank is more likely to be out of the hobby in 12 months rather than in it.I'm looking at health of the hobby I love. Competition is healthy and drives the hobby to where it is today. Competition keeps costs down and makes the hobby accessible to everyone. Thus sustains the hobby.
Mg and Ca are gimmicks. No one tests them at all at that frequency, and most dosing systems really tell you to test alk and adjust all dosing accordingly. So how does that make anyone else redundant? Especially since this is 1300 dollars+ to test (you can't disregard the price of a new apex when it's actually a requirement for the test) while the others are sub 1000?
Lol. Was taking long to learn where all the rage was coming fromLol GHL is a far more reliable controller. And they're not in the business of screwing over their clients.