TOS Question: ChatGPT

[Miami Reef]

Well, imo, hopefully you learned that people don't want ai responses. You can grow by learning the hobby and offering help based on those experiences/ research, not regurgitated responses that you don't have the knowledge of experience to even try to filter the trash. Hopefully you can see our side here.

I agree.

Switching some of the words ChatGPT for other ones doesn’t make much of a difference. It’s very easy to spot an AI response because it just bombards you with every possible scenario that could cause a coral to have an issue, when it’s much more nuanced than that.

The AI said torches can suffer from elevated phosphate over 0.5ppm, but that’s not necessarily the case.

It mentioned that fragging causes coral stress, but the fragging was done while the coral was already stressed out to attempt to save the other parts.

It just takes key words from posts and tries to generate responses to it, even at the cost of being irrelevant.

 

[FindinNemo]

I agree.

Switching some of the words ChatGPT for other ones doesn’t make much of a difference. It’s very easy to spot an AI response because it just bombards you with every possible scenario that could cause a coral to have an issue, when it’s much more nuanced than that.

The AI said torches can suffer from elevated phosphate over 0.5ppm, but that’s not necessarily the case.

It mentioned that fragging causes coral stress, but the fragging was done while the coral was already stressed out to attempt to save the other parts.

It just takes key words from posts and tries to generate responses to it, even at the cost of being irrelevant.

I agree.

Switching some of the words ChatGPT for other ones doesn’t make much of a difference. It’s very easy to spot an AI response because it just bombards you with every possible scenario that could cause a coral to have an issue, when it’s much more nuanced than that.

The AI said torches can suffer from elevated phosphate over 0.5ppm, but that’s not necessarily the case.

It mentioned that fragging causes coral stress, but the fragging was done while the coral was already stressed out to attempt to save the other parts.

It just takes key words from posts and tries to generate responses to it, even at the cost of being irrelevant.

I appreciate you and reefering9’s feedback, and I see what you mean. You're right that AI responses can sometimes be a bit too generalized, and that’s why I always try to personalize and contextualize the information before sharing it.

I definitely agree that coral care is nuanced, and AI might not always capture those subtleties perfectly. In this case, I used ChatGPT to offer a range of possibilities, but I know that it’s about identifying the specific circumstances of the coral’s health, not just listing every potential factor. I’ll be more mindful of that going forward and ensure I focus more on the specifics when contributing. I really appreciate everyone’s input and thoughts and will be more careful moving forward!

 

[twentyleagues]

It wasn’t disclosed to my knowledge, this thread lead to folks reporting it as such. Rev closed his account to try and figure out if it was a person or a bot and later revealed as a person just trying to help to no surprise.

There is no confirmation yet if AI was used to my knowledge

Hello everyone,

Wow! I just want to take a moment to clarify a few things and clear up any confusion. Yes, I use ChatGPT to help me answer questions, but no, my responses are not directly copied and pasted. I always take the time to tweak and personalize the information to ensure it makes sense and fits the context of the discussion.

I’m new to the saltwater world, having grown up with freshwater tanks, and I joined this forum to both learn and help others. I understand that when fellow reefers face problems that I'm not familiar with, ChatGPT is an incredible tool to gain insights and broaden my understanding. By doing this, I’m also learning more about the issue at hand and applying that knowledge to assist others.

My goal is not to replace anyone’s personal experience or expertise, but to supplement it. We’re all here to learn and grow together( no pun intended). I’m a human, not a robot, and I make sure to put effort into my replies by emphasizing key points and strategies that could be helpful, whether they come from my own experience or from the insights I gain through GPT.

Forums are a great place for sharing personal experiences, and ChatGPT is just another tool that aggregates a wealth of information from across the internet. When used responsibly, it can help us find additional solutions or strategies that might not be immediately obvious.

Ultimately, I just want to help wherever I can and contribute to the growth of this community. Let’s all learn from each other and grow together. Thank you to everyone who has welcomed me to the forum!

See. I know ChatGPT responses when I see them. I use it to help in another "hobby" I have. Its an incredible tool I agree just not in this instance. Also I do believe if AI was not used we would have known as Rev would have stated it.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its probably a duck, might be a platypus but this was a duck.

 

[FindinNemo]

I appreciate you and reefering9’s feedback, and I see what you mean. You're right that AI responses can sometimes be a bit too generalized, and that’s why I always try to personalize and contextualize the information before sharing it.

I definitely agree that coral care is nuanced, and AI might not always capture those subtleties perfectly. In this case, I used ChatGPT to offer a range of possibilities, but I know that it’s about identifying the specific circumstances of the coral’s health, not just listing every potential factor. I’ll be more mindful of that going forward and ensure I focus more on the specifics when contributing. I really appreciate everyone’s input and thoughts and will be more careful moving

See. I know ChatGPT responses when I see them. I use it to help in another "hobby" I have. Its an incredible tool I agree just not in this instance. Also I do believe if AI was not used we would have known as Rev would have stated it.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its probably a duck, might be a platypus but this was a duck.

Changed my profile picture to relate to this! It now looks like a “duck”. Lol

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Hello everyone,

Wow! I just want to take a moment to clarify a few things and clear up any confusion. Yes, I use ChatGPT to help me answer questions, but no, my responses are not directly copied and pasted. I always take the time to tweak and personalize the information to ensure it makes sense and fits the context of the discussion.

I’m new to the saltwater world, having grown up with freshwater tanks, and I joined this forum to both learn and help others. I understand that when fellow reefers face problems that I'm not familiar with, ChatGPT is an incredible tool to gain insights and broaden my understanding. By doing this, I’m also learning more about the issue at hand and applying that knowledge to assist others.

My goal is not to replace anyone’s personal experience or expertise, but to supplement it. We’re all here to learn and grow together( no pun intended). I’m a human, not a robot, and I make sure to put effort into my replies by emphasizing key points and strategies that could be helpful, whether they come from my own experience or from the insights I gain through GPT.

Forums are a great place for sharing personal experiences, and ChatGPT is just another tool that aggregates a wealth of information from across the internet. When used responsibly, it can help us find additional solutions or strategies that might not be immediately obvious.

Ultimately, I just want to help wherever I can and contribute to the growth of this community. Let’s all learn from each other and grow together. Thank you to everyone who has welcomed me to the forum!

Just an fyi, ChatGPT is unreliable when it comes to reef aquarium chemistry, including math calculations of chemistry stuff. I’ve posted to and started several threads showing the issues.

 

[twentyleagues]

Just an fyi, ChatGPT is unreliable when it comes to reef aquarium chemistry, including math calculations of chemistry stuff. I’ve posted to and started several threads showing the issues.

Yes ChatGPT has no idea how to math if I can tell its wrong then its bad lol.

 

[twentyleagues]

Changed my profile picture to relate to this! It now looks like a “duck”. Lol

If it were only a platypus.

 

[FindinNemo]

Just an fyi, ChatGPT is unreliable when it comes to reef aquarium chemistry, including math calculations of chemistry stuff. I’ve posted to and started several threads showing the issues.

Let’s try a question out?

 

[Reefering1]

I’ll be more mindful of that going forward and ensure I focus more on the specifics when contributing. I really appreciate everyone’s input and thoughts and will be more careful moving forward!

I suggest you learn before trying to teach.

 

[FindinNemo]

If it were only a platypus.

 

[jabberwock]

I prefer real intelligence over artificial intelligence. I work for a large global consulting company. We have had AI governance for 2 years.

AI has the potential to facilitate civilizational destruction for the human race. Proceed slowly.

 

[BeanAnimal]

Hello everyone,

Wow! I just want to take a moment to clarify a few things and clear up any confusion. Yes, I use ChatGPT to help me answer questions, but no, my responses are not directly copied and pasted. I always take the time to tweak and personalize the information to ensure it makes sense and fits the context of the discussion.

I’m new to the saltwater world, having grown up with freshwater tanks, and I joined this forum to both learn and help others. I understand that when fellow reefers face problems that I'm not familiar with, ChatGPT is an incredible tool to gain insights and broaden my understanding. By doing this, I’m also learning more about the issue at hand and applying that knowledge to assist others.

My goal is not to replace anyone’s personal experience or expertise, but to supplement it. We’re all here to learn and grow together( no pun intended). I’m a human, not a robot, and I make sure to put effort into my replies by emphasizing key points and strategies that could be helpful, whether they come from my own experience or from the insights I gain through GPT.

Forums are a great place for sharing personal experiences, and ChatGPT is just another tool that aggregates a wealth of information from across the internet. When used responsibly, it can help us find additional solutions or strategies that might not be immediately obvious.

Ultimately, I just want to help wherever I can and contribute to the growth of this community. Let’s all learn from each other and grow together. Thank you to everyone who has welcomed me to the forum!

The problem is that ChatGPT is wrong as often as it is right, especially if the person driving it does not know what they are taking about or how to determine when it is wrong.

So respectfully, your intent to help is very possibly spreading poor information.

I think most people would much prefer candid answers and conversations, right or wrong, from the mind and experience of a human, not somebody copying and pasting AI responses to questions out of their realm of experience.

There is no hard line to be drawn, but maybe a lot more you and a whole lot less AI would be more in the spirit of the community. Your most recent response for example, would have felt more genuine if it were written by you and not chatGPT. As it is -- it feels more like you just laughed and did exactly what folks have indicated feels out of place, in a sense making a mockery of this conversation and the Owner's kindness and goodwill in allowing you to continue posting.

 

[rtparty]

Even the responses here seem to be all ChatGPT

 

[BeanAnimal]

Even the responses here seem to be all ChatGPT

They most certainly do, and that is unfortunate.

 

[FindinNemo]

I understand the concerns around AI generated content, and I respect the frustrations that can come with it. I believe a practical step for mods would be to make it standard practice to include a message signature such as: 'Some information in this message was sourced from ChatGPT' or something similar. This would help clarify the origin of information and provide transparency for all members. All I am trying to do is help!

 

[naterealbig]

gag

 

[ShakeyGizzard]

Using AI or ChatGPT for making posts tends to put the poster in the "Captain Obvious" list. When someone asks for help on here with a problem, I am quite sure they would like to hear from folks who have actually delt with the issue themselves, and how they corrected it. Yes, I keep lists

 

[Fish Fan]

All I am trying to do is help!

I get that. Could I just mention that there are other ways to help and be a valued member of the forum than trying to have all the expert answers.

 

[Nonya]

I’ve talked with this member and they are indeed human and just trying to help. I’ve asked them not to parrot ChatGTP for now while we work on refining our stance as a forum. Thanks and now I really have to go get in the bed. Fever since yesterday.

Fever?! Sure hope you're wearing a mask and using hand sanitizer while you're chatting with the group. COVID!

 

[Dan_P]

I see a new user that is only using ChatGPT to respond to posts with coral issues.

Is this allowed? Is there a rule that prohibits someone from copying and pasting AI responses to forum questions?

Here’s a more direct question: Should I report the user or do I just let it slide? What are the rules?

What’s the difference between the average response to a question on R2R generated by humans and one generated by AI? Both types of AI, biological and in silico, are trained on limited and possibly flawed data sets and both hallucinate (make up stuff).

I don’t think it matters that someone is dumping an AI opinion on R2R because eventually a reasonable answer usually surfaces on this forum.