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I had it affect them quite dramatically, killing some and almost killing others. Usually the tissue itself came off the coral.How should I expect it to affect corals?
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I had it affect them quite dramatically, killing some and almost killing others. Usually the tissue itself came off the coral.How should I expect it to affect corals?
I would only use any of these products as kinda a last resort. Vibrant, fluconazole, chemiclean, etc.
Cuc, water changes, lighting changes, flow changes, etc. Are things I always try for at least a couple months. Some of these products make it easy to "solve" a problem, but before you know it you're throwing all kinds of crap in your tank. Dosing it daily, monthly, etc. Then the tank has enough or is just never quite right. Really most of the beautiful tanks we all strive for have a pretty basic list of what is going into the tanks. The hard part is sometimes it takes quite a bit of time to get the tank over whatever hump.
The only exception for me would be if I'm losing all my corals fast. Then I would be more inclined to try whatever.
A bunch of very hungry snails can go a long ways sometimes! A little elbow grease to help them out too!
If you run my cleaning method on this nano it will be algae free and invasion free, no dosers no water testing just reset, with no invader. Takes a couple hours, special steps occur that haven't occurred so far, the tank is cleaned in a certain way, then it's reassembled without invasion.
It's my opinion we've logged more successful nano cures with this method than any other method one can search out.
We're wanting new challenges in our rebuild threads, let me know. No matter how many corals, your fish, it's all been done repeatedly before. Kill the algae, clean out it's food source, and prevent a months long loss risk.
You don't need vibrant or any doser, the method that cannot be beaten is deep cleaning done a certain way without hesitation.
Vibrant won't directly impact coral. What it will do is cause nutrient shifts that, if not controlled, can have a very negative impact on corals. Keep in mind that you are using it to kill algae. Algae is both a major consumer of nutrients and acts as a filter for other impurities. If you start killing this filter off it can have some very negative impacts.How should I expect it to affect corals?
Awesome. This is what I was hoping to hear. I don't have much of an algae problem, just some stubborn brown bits that won't get off my sand. I want a clean, white, look, so hopefully this'll do that for me.Vibrant won't directly impact coral. What it will do is cause nutrient shifts that, if not controlled, can have a very negative impact on corals. Keep in mind that you are using it to kill algae. Algae is both a major consumer of nutrients and acts as a filter for other impurities. If you start killing this filter off it can have some very negative impacts.
The only thing I use Vibrant for (or similar products) is for algae that I can't find a CuC member to eat. That is always the best first choice imo. Right now I'm fighting a member of what I believe to be in the bryopsidae family. Nothing will eat this stuff. Dosing Vibrant at just over 1ml/10g every 3 days with no negative impact.
That's really good to hear. I guess the majority of those who post something online are, unsurprisingly, having trouble.Works great in multiple tanks of mine. It’s surprising to me to see so many complaints.
This is the big Vibrant post on R2R with 5000+ comments. You will see a lot of success stories, a few horror stories, and some who saw no change at all. I spend quite a bit of time on it trying to help people. I had huge algae problems with my first reef tank and tried Vibrant. It made things so much worse. The owner of UWC reached out to me and explained why I had the problems I did and walked me through. Within a month the tank looked great. Now I try to help others in the same way. There is so much variety in reef tanks that basic directions don't do the product justice.That's really good to hear. I guess the majority of those who post something online are, unsurprisingly, having trouble.
I feel people try to use it that way and it can cause troubles. Most of the other bacterial based algae treatments do work this way. Vibrant has some bacteria that directly attack the algae itself. I've seen it on my microscope but haven't been able to film it. @jason2459 captured and posted a video of the bacteria tearing a chunk of algae off a strand. Fascinating stuff. With the current algae I'm battling I am dosing every 3 days put keeping my NO3 at 20ppm and PO4 at 0.08ppm. Even with elevated nutrients like I have (mixed reef) it's starting to take out this algae.I think the way it may work is choking out the algae but this can also affect coral. Adding nutrients may actually contradict what Vibrant is trying to do though.
It's use has led to more than one reef tank being smoked, no doubt about it. I can't stress enough about taking it slow, ramping up, and being very observant just like you should with any product. It's not exactly as dramatic as Chemiclean but it is similar. Chemiclean has a ton of positive reviews but more than a few cases where it has killed almost every living thing in peoples tanks. No one seems to be able to narrow down exactly what the trigger is that make some of these products dangerous for some systems and harmless in others.I remember BRS was doing a live stream and Randy said it smoked somebody’s SPS tank at the warehouse. He acted like after that he most likely wouldn’t use it.
This is the big Vibrant post on R2R with 5000+ comments. You will see a lot of success stories, a few horror stories, and some who saw no change at all. I spend quite a bit of time on it trying to help people. I had huge algae problems with my first reef tank and tried Vibrant. It made things so much worse. The owner of UWC reached out to me and explained why I had the problems I did and walked me through. Within a month the tank looked great. Now I try to help others in the same way. There is so much variety in reef tanks that basic directions don't do the product justice.
I feel people try to use it that way and it can cause troubles. Most of the other bacterial based algae treatments do work this way. Vibrant has some bacteria that directly attack the algae itself. I've seen it on my microscope but haven't been able to film it. @jason2459 captured and posted a video of the bacteria tearing a chunk of algae off a strand. Fascinating stuff. With the current algae I'm battling I am dosing every 3 days put keeping my NO3 at 20ppm and PO4 at 0.08ppm. Even with elevated nutrients like I have (mixed reef) it's starting to take out this algae.
It's use has led to more than one reef tank being smoked, no doubt about it. I can't stress enough about taking it slow, ramping up, and being very observant just like you should with any product. It's not exactly as dramatic as Chemiclean but it is similar. Chemiclean has a ton of positive reviews but more than a few cases where it has killed almost every living thing in peoples tanks. No one seems to be able to narrow down exactly what the trigger is that make some of these products dangerous for some systems and harmless in others.
I’m wondering about reef energy, myself. I stopped using it about 3 weeks ago, and my algae has degraded significantly. I did cut back the lights pretty dramatically too, though.The first couple of months Vibrant did nothing for me. I stopped using it for a month and started again and my algae problem does seem much better. However, I also stopped using Reef Energy so that very well could have been causing the algae in the first place!
I would only use any of these products as kinda a last resort. Vibrant, fluconazole, chemiclean, etc.
Cuc, water changes, lighting changes, flow changes, etc. Are things I always try for at least a couple months. Some of these products make it easy to "solve" a problem, but before you know it you're throwing all kinds of crap in your tank. Dosing it daily, monthly, etc. Then the tank has enough or is just never quite right. Really most of the beautiful tanks we all strive for have a pretty basic list of what is going into the tanks. The hard part is sometimes it takes quite a bit of time to get the tank over whatever hump.
The only exception for me would be if I'm losing all my corals fast. Then I would be more inclined to try whatever.
A bunch of very hungry snails can go a long ways sometimes! A little elbow grease to help them out too!
I’m wondering about reef energy, myself. I stopped using it about 3 weeks ago, and my algae has degraded significantly. I did cut back the lights pretty dramatically too, though.
I’m thinking I’ll start using it again soon in a half dose.
That's really good to hear. I guess the majority of those who post something online are, unsurprisingly, having trouble.
Out of curiosity, how much, and how often, do you dose?