Battery backup for MightyJet pump

[Aquacrazed]

I picked up a UPS for my 15W IM Mightyjet desktop pump (https://www.innovative-marine.com/shop/MightyJet™-326-GPH-DC-AIO-Submersible-Return-Pump-Desktop-p184805888)

I got a Cyberpower EC850LCD (https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/ecologic/ec850lcd/). I'm trying to figure out the math to find out how many hours of runtime I would get if there is a power outage. Supposedly the battery Ah is 25800mah according to amazon answers. Can someone help please?

 

[Peace River]

Based on provided data and internet math -- ​

​

1. Convert battery capacity to watt-hours (Wh):​

25.8 Ah×24 V=619.2 Wh

2. Divide battery energy by device power to find runtime:​

619.2 / Wh15 W=41.28 hours

3. Efficiency losses in converters or inverters (usually 85–95%)
41.28 hours x .90 = ~37 hours

 

[Aquacrazed]

Based on provided data and internet math -- ​

​

1. Convert battery capacity to watt-hours (Wh):​

25.8 Ah×24 V=619.2 Wh

2. Divide battery energy by device power to find runtime:​

619.2 / Wh15 W=41.28 hours

3. Efficiency losses in converters or inverters (usually 85–95%)
41.28 hours x .90 = ~37 hours

Thanks so much! So 37hrs would be a safe number to go by?

 

[Peace River]

Hopefully others will chime in to verify. I am not an electrician, just a guy doing internet math. The best way to know for sure is to set it up and do a trial run! Good luck!

 

[KQuillan]

@VintageReefer

 

[VintageReefer]

I picked up a UPS for my 15W IM Mightyjet desktop pump (https://www.innovative-marine.com/shop/MightyJet™-326-GPH-DC-AIO-Submersible-Return-Pump-Desktop-p184805888)

I got a Cyberpower EC850LCD (https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/ecologic/ec850lcd/). I'm trying to figure out the math to find out how many hours of runtime I would get if there is a power outage. Supposedly the battery Ah is 25800mah according to amazon answers. Can someone help please?

The battery is 7.2ah which is 7200 mAH at 12v

This is equal to 86 watt hours meaning you can run 86 watts for just under an hour. This is a very low rating. The device is meant to power lcd monitors and computer for a couple minutes to save your files and shut down

Your pump is 15 watts

The runtime formula is
(86wh x .85) / 15w = 4.8 hours
Which may be good enough for most outages. But that lead acid ups battery will degrade and each year you’ll lose about 20% and by 5 years it’s out of service

The Oupes Exodus 600 is $139 with a coupon on Amazon at the moment and is 256wh. The battery will have 90% original capacity after 10 years. It has built in ups
And runtime…
(256wh x .85) / 15 = 14.5 hours

It’s 3x the runtime for $20 more, and you will not need to replace the battery in 5 years.

There is also a 512wh version with coupon for $200. That would give you
(512wh x .85) / 15 = 29 hours runtime

Link to both power stations

 

[VintageReefer]

Supposedly the battery Ah is 25800mah according to amazon answers.

Wrong

Replacing the CyberPower EC850LCD battery

Gotcha Normally instructions are not required for replacing a UPS battery, but unfortunately there is some misinformation out on the CyberPower website that I found on 05/09/2022 and when I checked…

obscureproblemsandgotchas.com

Also on the website for the ups has a replacement battery listed, which confirms 7.2 ah @ 12v

 

[VintageReefer]

Based on provided data and internet math -- ​

​

1. Convert battery capacity to watt-hours (Wh):​

25.8 Ah×24 V=619.2 Wh

2. Divide battery energy by device power to find runtime:​

619.2 / Wh15 W=41.28 hours

3. Efficiency losses in converters or inverters (usually 85–95%)
41.28 hours x .90 = ~37 hours

Is this AI formulated? Why is it using 24v as a multiplier when the battery is 12v. This is all legit math but incorrect values and info.

 

[Aquacrazed]

Hopefully others will chime in to verify. I am not an electrician, just a guy doing internet math. The best way to know for sure is to set it up and do a trial run! Good luck!

Ok, I'm running a test. Will report back!

 

[Aquacrazed]

Is this AI formulated? Why is it using 24v as a multiplier when the battery is 12v. This is all legit math but incorrect values and info.

So

7.2Ah x 12V = 86.4 Wh

86.4Wh / 15W = 5.76hrs?

 

[VintageReefer]

So

7.2Ah x 12V = 86.4 Wh

86.4Wh / 15W = 5.76hrs?

You are not factoring for efficiency - the loss from converting from dc to ac + power needed to run the device itself. You lose about 15%

(86.4 x .85) / 15w = 4.89 hours

 

[Aquacrazed]

The battery is 7.2ah which is 7200 mAH at 12v

This is equal to 86 watt hours meaning you can run 86 watts for just under an hour. This is a very low rating. The device is meant to power lcd monitors and computer for a couple minutes to save your files and shut down

Your pump is 15 watts

The runtime formula is
(86wh x .85) / 15w = 4.8 hours
Which may be good enough for most outages. But that lead acid ups battery will degrade and each year you’ll lose about 20% and by 5 years it’s out of service

The Oupes Exodus 600 is $139 with a coupon on Amazon at the moment and is 256wh. The battery will have 90% original capacity after 10 years. It has built in ups
And runtime…
(256wh x .85) / 15 = 14.5 hours

It’s 3x the runtime for $20 more, and you will not need to replace the battery in 5 years.

There is also a 512wh version with coupon for $200. That would give you
(512wh x .85) / 15 = 29 hours runtime

Link to both power stations

So I'm in Canada and this is not available at amazon.ca

 

[VintageReefer]

So I'm in Canada and this is not available at amazon.ca

Can you get it here

OUPES Exodus 600 Portable Power Station | 600W 256Wh

Empower Your Adventures with the Exodus 600 Series Portable Power Station! The OUPES 600W portable power station features a 256Wh capacity and 600W output, offering lightweight, reliable, and versatile energy for all your outdoor activities.

oupes.com

 

[VintageReefer]

If not then this is available and is slightly more. I checked Canadian Amazon and it seems you guys have a lot less selection. But this will do a great job

EF ECOFLOW RIVER 2 240 Portable Power Station, 243Wh LiFePO4 Battery, 1 Hour Fast Charging, 2 AC Outlets with Surge up to 600W, Suitable for Outdoor Camping, RVs, and Home Use
https://a.co/d/b4MahDY

 

[Aquacrazed]

Can you get it here

OUPES Exodus 600 Portable Power Station | 600W 256Wh

Empower Your Adventures with the Exodus 600 Series Portable Power Station! The OUPES 600W portable power station features a 256Wh capacity and 600W output, offering lightweight, reliable, and versatile energy for all your outdoor activities.

oupes.com

Only shipping option available is to the US. I would think shipping to Canada would be crazy expensive even if the option was available.

Isn't this similar? Anker, good brand. It's a little less than US$20 more.

Amazon product

 

[Aquacrazed]

Amazon product

 

[VintageReefer]

Only shipping option available is to the US. I would think shipping to Canada would be crazy expensive even if the option was available.

Isn't this similar? Anker, good brand. It's a little less than US$20 more.

Amazon product

They will work as long as your pulling less than 65w

 

[Aquacrazed]

Thanks a lot, will look around for one of these LifePO4's

 

[Aquacrazed]

Ok, I'm running a test. Will report back!

Lasted 3hrs 21min ooof! that's bad!

 

[VintageReefer]

Lasted 3hrs 21min ooof! that's bad!

Yea that thing must be even more inefficient than predicted. It’s old tech for computers.

I had a nice $250 cyberpower ups years ago and thought I could use it for outages. After 3 years I had my first outage. It lasted 11 min lol

There what got me into a side hobby of learning about these LiFePO4 stations and new battery tech.