Bolus dosing

[JohannesFFM]

since this is a thread about bolus i am posting what i oberserver with my tank. @rtparty if you post your result in a thread about your reefing method its also valuable feedback. if people get mad about the name bolus and the brand associated with that name its totally fine with me. we can agree that dosing bicarb once daily and ramping the light fast is a method that works. personally i realy dont care about what the method is called, i care about my corals beeing healthy, thats all. imho its more helpfull to talk about pros and cons of daily single alk dose / fast light ramp vs multiple alk doses per day and a long ramp up and down time.

 

[IntrinsicReef]

imho its more helpfull to talk about pros and cons of daily single alk dose / fast light ramp vs multiple alk doses per day and a long ramp up and down time.

That's what we are discussing. I haven't seen any evidence of a difference. And ramp times are different than increased lighting intensity. Personally, I think ramp times have nothing to do with coral health. I maintain tanks with simple timers and no ramp time, and tanks with complex ramp time programs. I haven't seen any difference. Peak light intensity, color, and photoperiod are different topics in themselves.

 

[BeanAnimal]

since this is a thread about bolus i am posting what i oberserver with my tank. @rtparty if you post your result in a thread about your reefing method its also valuable feedback. if people get mad about the name bolus and the brand associated with that name its totally fine with me. we can agree that dosing bicarb once daily and ramping the light fast is a method that works. personally i realy dont care about what the method is called, i care about my corals beeing healthy, thats all. imho its more helpfull to talk about pros and cons of daily single alk dose / fast light ramp vs multiple alk doses per day and a long ramp up and down time.

Respectfully Johannes - I think you missed his point, and maybe that of most of the people here.

"Does it work" was not the question being asked and therefore "It works" is not the answer that people are looking for.

The Pros and Cons are fine to talk about. Much of the very issue here is those very pros and cons as described by Claude, many of which are simply not supported by known science, and furthermore the science that he uses to describe them does not make sense. He and many proponents of this method keep repeating "it works" in an effort to not have to address the various specific claims that were made AS PART of "pros and cons" of this method.

I am sure your coral are fine and you enjoy the method. That is not what is being questioned.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

. imho its more helpfull to talk about pros and cons of daily single alk dose / fast light ramp vs multiple alk doses per day and a long ramp up and down time.

It seems to me to be much more useful to understand those two effects independently. There’s zero reason bolus vs spread out and slow vs fast light ramp up need to be tied together.

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

Please show me. I’ve always wondered what Randy sounded like. Does he have an accent? lol :)

I believe Boston Reefers has a disc copy. Disc copies of all talks were sold, IIRC.

Look what came in the mail today.

 

[Miami Reef]

Look what came in the mail today.

Hey, so I would really like to listen to that. That’s so cool!!!

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

Hey, so I would really like to listen to that. That’s so cool!!!

Knowing that MACNA is no longer, I don't know what, if any, type of copy write applies here. Of course I would need Randy's permission, but I could upload this to youtube and share the link. @Randy Holmes-Farley, what's your thoughts?

 

[Miami Reef]

Knowing that MACNA is no longer, I don't know what, if any, type of copy write applies here. Of course I would need Randy's permission, but I could upload this to youtube and share the link.

I can rent the CD and then return it after you watched it! Let me know.

 

[BeanAnimal]

I had cases full of our MACNA DVDs. I may have thrown them away, not sure if I even kept a set. We had one for each speaker’s presentation but I can’t remember how many were in the set, 10-15 I think.

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

I had cases full of our MACNA DVDs. I may have thrown them away, not sure if I even kept a set. We had one for each speaker’s presentation but I can’t remember how many were in the set, 10-15 I think.

I recieved 19 dvd's for this particular year.

 

[Doctorgori]

That's what we are discussing. I haven't seen any evidence of a difference. And ramp times are different than increased lighting intensity. Personally, I think ramp times have nothing to do with coral health. I maintain tanks with simple timers and no ramp time, and tanks with complex ramp time programs. I haven't seen any difference. Peak light intensity, color, and photoperiod are different topics in themselves.

Remember these days? Note the sophisticated “mechanical computers” LOL

(Im gonna recycle/replay this photo a few more times as the appropriate segways arise LOL)

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Look what came in the mail today.

lol

At that MACNA, I won a raffle for a 90 gallon bow front filled with lots of fish. Luckily I only live a half hour away and had a minivan that could fit the tank, the stand, and lots of salt buckets of fish.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Knowing that MACNA is no longer, I don't know what, if any, type of copy write applies here. Of course I would need Randy's permission, but I could upload this to youtube and share the link. @Randy Holmes-Farley, what's your thoughts?

I have no problem with it being posted somehow, but I don’t know who or what might own the copyright, if anyone. In a scenario where it might revert to me, it’s not something I’d enforce for this video.

 

[Miami Reef]

I have no problem with it being posted somehow, but I don’t know who or what might own the copyright, if anyone.

Thank you so much. I look forward to seeing it.

Thank you @Sisterlimonpot If you don’t feel comfortable sharing it publicly, you have the option to make it unlisted, so only people who have a link can view it.

I’d love to watch a snippet of it. I’ve never seen Randy make a lecture. I’ve actually inquired about this.

Randy MACNA talks?

Are there any videos of @Randy Holmes-Farley previous MACNA talks? I want to watch but I don’t think I found any results when I searched “Randy Holmes Farley MACNA” on YouTube that showed Randy speaking.

www.reef2reef.com

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Bear in mind that a video from a 20 year old talk is unlikely to have anything particularly new in it, except hearing my voice. lol

 

[A_Blind_Reefer]

Bear in mind that a video from a 20 year old talk is unlikely to have anything particularly new in it, except hearing my voice. lol

I will absolutely die if you’re talking about dosing one singular dose per day to replenish alkalinity, etc. with lights on full blast…. back in the Stone Age, before dosing pumps and dimmable lights were the norm

 

[Miami Reef]

Bear in mind that a video from a 20 year old talk is unlikely to have anything particularly new in it, except hearing my voice. lol

The only purpose of me wanting to watch the video is to hear your voice lol.

I’ve learned so much, and you helped me so much with your tank. You’re like a mentor to me, and it would be so cool to see the face behind the phosphate profile picture. Lol

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

I will absolutely die if you’re talking about dosing one singular dose per day to replenish alkalinity, etc. with lights on full blast…. back in the Stone Age, before dosing pumps and dimmable lights were the norm

lol

So will I. I don't remember exactly what is in it. Sort of a survery of chemical issues such as N and P, I think. That said, with mh lights, they are instantly on 100%, so that aspect of the plan is mostly already accomplished.

 

[rishma]

Bear in mind that a video from a 20 year old talk is unlikely to have anything particularly new in it, except hearing my voice. lol

But I hear you are stuck in the 80’s so if it’s only 20 years old it would pretty cutting edge stuff

 

[rtparty]

But I hear you are stuck in the 80’s so if it’s only 20 years old it would pretty cutting edge stuff

Don’t forget “Randy chemistry” only works in freshwater. That’s very important in their current argument.

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