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That's possible as space was limited in the QT. But I put the Firefish back into the DT five days before the Wrasse and they were behaving the same way. Maybe they are still freaked out over their time in Gen-Pop in the QT.Sounds like the Firefish are hiding. Xmas Wrasses have been known to be quite aggressive and many would tell you, while there are exceptions, not to put them into a tank with "peaceful" fish.
Some have tried what you have suggested thinking it would increase the speed of the life cycle of possible parasites in the tank. The problem is no one is sure exactly how much it affects the parasite's life cycle. So much more data at regular salinity and temp and thus makes the 76 day time frame for a total fallow period more reliable. That being said, it's a hobby where people experiment all the time. Best of luck.Quick question on the fallow period. I have removed everything and am waiting for that period to end. My questions is, is there a way to speed that process up. Like can I increase temp lower salinity and go fallow and it make it quicker?
You should be fine to pull the copper out of the system. Even though we always talk about copper only impacting the free swimming form of the parasite, there is some evidence that shows copper will kill encysted parasites after 2 to 3 weeks of exposure. This is why removing copper after 30 days works. There is some risk that a more copper resistant strain of Ich may make it through but it is unlikely. But, for that reason, my preference is now to treat in copper for 10 days and transfer to a clean QT.Just finished reading the whole thread.
So here’s my question. I’m a week into my fallow period for ich and all my fish are in separate QT tanks. One of my tank’s Cupramine treatment (30 days) will end next week, but since my DT is fallow, they need to stay in QT without copper. Do I need to move them to a separate tank, clean the existing tank and dry it, to ensure that any encysting ich parasite will not be able to reinfect the fish? I’m thinking that there’s a chance that parasites in the encysting stage longer than 30 days have a chance of surviving the copper medication if they encysted before I started the cupramine treatment. I haven’t seen that scenario raised in this thread. What do you guys think?
You should be fine to pull the copper out of the system. Even though we always talk about copper only impacting the free swimming form of the parasite, there is some evidence that shows copper will kill encysted parasites after 2 to 3 weeks of exposure. This is why removing copper after 30 days works. There is some risk that a more copper resistant strain of Ich may make it through but it is unlikely. But, for that reason, my preference is now to treat in copper for 10 days and transfer to a clean QT.
I haven't seen a study showing Cryptocaryon Irritans feeding on a fish for more than 6 or 7 days. The 10 day window is to ensure all of the feeding Ich leaves while protecting the fish from any new parasites with a safety margin of 3 to 4 days.Gotcha... Follow-up question, why 10 days and not seachem’s recommended 14 days?
This is not correct. The free swimming stage of ich is dead in 6 hours without finding a host. It will stay on a fish for 8 days. The cyst can last up to 28 days in your substraight.I haven't seen a study showing Cryptocaryon Irritans feeding on a fish for more than 6 or 7 days. The 10 day window is to ensure all of the feeding Ich leaves while protecting the fish from any new parasites with a safety margin of 3 to 4 days.
A better question may be why they recommend 14 days. In my opinion it is longer than needed if you are going to transfer the fish and too short if you plan on removing the copper with the fish still in the system.
@Humblefish Does the fallow timer for velvet include the 15 days that the free swimming stage can remain infective? or should the real timer actually be 42+15 days, making the full fallow 62 days long?
Great! Thank you.The 45 day fallow period for velvet takes into account the possibility that free swimmers were present/active for 15 days.