Going fallow

[coralbeauties]

I need to pull my fish to go fallow in my frag system. All my fish are fine but the stupid powder blue. I’ve treated him separately and he looked good and within a week of going back to the frag system he has ich. My concern is I have a pipe fish and not sure it would survive in a qt tank without pods or being in copper. Any chance of leaving it in the fallow system or would the ich just attack it being the only fish left in the tank?
Thanks for any advise
Jeff

 

[Tikki]

Run a properly sized UV?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I need to pull my fish to go fallow in my frag system. All my fish are fine but the stupid powder blue. I’ve treated him separately and he looked good and within a week of going back to the frag system he has ich. My concern is I have a pipe fish and not sure it would survive in a qt tank without pods or being in copper. Any chance of leaving it in the fallow system or would the ich just attack it being the only fish left in the tank?
Thanks for any advise
Jeff

That's a tough call. I certainly understand about pipefish needing a mature tank with inverts to browse on. They can harbor ich though. The absolute safest method would be to hold the tank fallow with just the pipefish for 60+ days and then double check for the presence of ich DNA through one of the eDNA tests.

Are you certain that the treatment you used on the PBT was 100% effective? It may still have had ich, and then moving it out of the treatment tank allowed that to come back. Generally, 30 days of coppersafe or hyposalinity will clear a fish of ich, but other treatments, or shorter time frames may not always work.

 

[MnFish1]

That's a tough call. I certainly understand about pipefish needing a mature tank with inverts to browse on. They can harbor ich though. The absolute safest method would be to hold the tank fallow with just the pipefish for 60+ days and then double check for the presence of ich DNA through one of the eDNA tests.

Are you certain that the treatment you used on the PBT was 100% effective? It may still have had ich, and then moving it out of the treatment tank allowed that to come back. Generally, 30 days of coppersafe or hyposalinity will clear a fish of ich, but other treatments, or shorter time frames may not always work.

Jay would hypo salinity help here as the best option ( I know you mentioned it - but I would not add the fish to a frag tank)

 

[coralbeauties]

I think I’ll pull the powder blue and run him though qt again. I actually didn’t keep track of how long he was in qt before so I’ll be more diligent this time. I like that idea a whole lot better.
Thanks
Jeff

 

[MnFish1]

I think I’ll pull the powder blue and run him though qt again. I actually didn’t keep track of how long he was in qt before so I’ll be more diligent this time. I like that idea a whole lot better.
Thanks
Jeff

Not criticizing you - but - the MOST important thing with QT is following a protocol - strictly. If you underdose issue, etc.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I think I’ll pull the powder blue and run him though qt again. I actually didn’t keep track of how long he was in qt before so I’ll be more diligent this time. I like that idea a whole lot better.
Thanks
Jeff

May be perhaps the right call to assure its been quarantined both properly and effectively and see how it looks from there. At times, quarantine period may have to be extended especially where there is a stubborn case of ich and Cryptocaryon. Monitor ammonia levels also while treating

 

[coralbeauties]

So took the recommendation to qt my powder blue. He clearly had ich spots when I put him into copper treated qt tank yesterday. Now today he has white stringy stuff hanging off him. I’ve never experienced anything like this before in a fish. Hope the pics are good enough for you to see what I’m talking about. Some sort of worm parasite?
Thanks

 

[Jay Hemdal]

So took the recommendation to qt my powder blue. He clearly had ich spots when I put him into copper treated qt tank yesterday. Now today he has white stringy stuff hanging off him. I’ve never experienced anything like this before in a fish. Hope the pics are good enough for you to see what I’m talking about. Some sort of worm parasite?
Thanks

That’s mucus - ich can cause that, so can rubbing on a net during capture.

What copper are you using and what is the dose?

 

[coralbeauties]

Went with cupramine at 2 drops per gallon. Looks like it is testing out at about .8 so I just changed 5 gallons in the 40 breeder I’m using. Bottle recommended staying at .6 or lower
Thanks

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Went with cupramine at 2 drops per gallon. Looks like it is testing out at about .8 so I just changed 5 gallons in the 40 breeder I’m using. Bottle recommended staying at .6 or lower
Thanks

Yes - Cupramine is harsher than coppersafe or copper power. 0.8 can be toxic. I prefer to use it at 0.5