Fox Face with circular wound - ID?

[Isaac Alves]

Got the kanaplex meds in finally. Added 3 scoops for the 15 gallons and directions say to wait 48 hours and dose again.

 

[Isaac Alves]

Quick Update and status

This morning the 20 long QT was a bit cloudy. Not sure what that was about but I activated a secondary air stone so there should be plenty of oxygenation and the ammonia badge is reading normal.

Closeups of infected area for comparison and any feedback on condition.
There does seem to be a white colored coating on it...very red in spots. Pics below:

 

[Isaac Alves]

Video to show behavior and condition:

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[StartingATank]

Seems to be healing nice

 

[Isaac Alves]

Feeding a bit.

I'm always uncertain about how much to feed in a QT Tank. I usually feed very light.

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[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Video to show behavior and condition:

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I can see scales underneath the lesion, so that's a good sign. In very severe bacterial infections, the scales will be destroyed and not visible.

 

[Isaac Alves]

I can see scales underneath the lesion, so that's a good sign. In very severe bacterial infections, the scales will be destroyed and not visible.

Good to know. Thank you.


Do you have advice on feeding in this situation?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Good to know. Thank you.


Do you have advice on feeding in this situation?

No - other than to ensure the water quality is good and to avoid the "spectator syndrome", where you get up close to the tank to see if it eats, but that causes the fish to shy away from the food. Try observing from a darkened room, and the remove all uneaten food after 30 minutes or so.

 

[Isaac Alves]

No - other than to ensure the water quality is good and to avoid the "spectator syndrome", where you get up close to the tank to see if it eats, but that causes the fish to shy away from the food. Try observing from a darkened room, and the remove all uneaten food after 30 minutes or so.

Ok. Thank you again.

 

[Idech]

It’s nice that she’s eating so well ! Do you turn off the light after she eats ? It seems very bright.

 

[Isaac Alves]

It’s nice that she’s eating so well ! Do you turn off the light after she eats ? It seems very bright.

I do not. I have the light on a timer though. It’s pretty dim — it’s a cheap $20 freshwater light I had in the garage. I think the camera is over exposing the tank.

 

[Isaac Alves]

Day 2 (~24hrs)

Morning images of infected area:

Fox face is acting normally. Still hungry.

Ammonia badge is not as yellow but from past QT experience I’m ok with this color:

Although last night I did dose 1.5mls of Prime. But I think the bio filter is holding. I’m not feeding as much as she probably wants too eat though. I'm doing small feedings throughout day. And long strips of nori is easier to feed her than the shredded i was in the video above.

 

[Isaac Alves]

Second dose of kanaplex going in. 3 level scoops for 15 gallons.

 

[Isaac Alves]

The ammonia looked slightly greenish to me. So I wanted to check with an api ammonia test.

Badge color:

Of course the ammonia test says 1.0 to my eyes. Eeeesh.

 

[Isaac Alves]

The ammonia badge reads under .05ppm to me. Something I can manage with Prime. But the API test is way different—don’t like color measurements. Wish I had the Hanna ammonia checker.

Question:
What signs should I look for if the Fox face is having trouble with the ammonia level?

 

[Idech]

The ammonia badge reads under .05ppm to me. Something I can manage with Prime. But the API test is way different—don’t like color measurements. Wish I had the Hanna ammonia checker.

Question:
What signs should I look for if the Fox face is having trouble with the ammonia level?

Dont wait for any signs. Your fish is ill as it is. Do a big WC now.

 

[Isaac Alves]

5 gallon water change and re-dosed just one scoop of kanaplex to make up the changed water.

Maybe I fed her too much today — more than the bio filter could process.

I don’t broadcast feed in the QT. I literally hand feed her long thin strips of nori that she gobbles down- so nothing uneaten. But I did see some poop and got that out of there.

 

[Isaac Alves]

I don’t know about anyone else but I’ll get up early like 3-4 am to check on the QT because I worry I’ll wake up and find that my fish perished from ammonia poisoning. Ugh.

The last 10 years I’ve had maybe 4 instances where hospital tanks were necessary. If I could avoid it and do a DT tank treatment I would—the ammonia challenge is always a nail biter for me.

I’ve got two 5 gallon jugs with fresh saltwater sitting under the desk so they’ll be at room temp for a water change tomorrow.

I was hoping, based on sources online, kanaplex might be gentler on the bio filter. And using a pretty hefty bag of aged bio media from the display the qt might support a single tang in a 20 long with only 15 gallons of water.

I increased the flow through the HOB tonight to move more water through the media.

 

[Dierks]

I don’t know about anyone else but I’ll get up early like 3-4 am to check on the QT because I worry I’ll wake up and find that my fish perished from ammonia poisoning. Ugh.

The last 10 years I’ve had maybe 4 instances where hospital tanks were necessary. If I could avoid it and do a DT tank treatment I would—the ammonia challenge is always a nail biter for me.

I’ve got two 5 gallon jugs with fresh saltwater sitting under the desk so they’ll be at room temp for a water change tomorrow.

I was hoping, based on sources online, kanaplex might be gentler on the bio filter. And using a pretty hefty bag of aged bio media from the display the qt might support a single tang in a 20 long with only 15 gallons of water.

I increased the flow through the HOB tonight to move more water through the media.

You got this buddy!

 

[gbroadbridge]

The ammonia looked slightly greenish to me. So I wanted to check with an api ammonia test.

Badge color:

Of course the ammonia test says 1.0 to my eyes. Eeeesh.

You're comparing apples with oranges

The seachem badge is measuring toxic ammonia, whereas the API test is measuring total ammonia.

The toxicity of the total ammonia is affected by pH, which the badge takes into account.

My experience is that you can trust the badge.