Guide to the Triton Method

Discussion in 'Triton Applied Reef Bioscience' started by Tim@Triton, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. Tim@Triton

    Tim@Triton Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Gold Sponsor

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    Hi Jason

    You have two options. Go full Triton and modify your system, or continue with your system as is and use Reef Supplements to replace your current dosing method.

    If you want to go full Triton then that would involve modifying your sump to reflect the Triton specifications, removing the RollerMat, increasing the size of algae refugium, moving the skimmer into the second chamber...

    However, if you are happy with the way your system is running then you can leave it as it is and simply change your dosing from the balling method over to Core7 Reef Supplements (Other Methods)....

    Any system will benefit from the addition of an algae section in my opinion.

    Whichever route your chose to take the dosing changeover is the same, the most accurate way to work out the equivalent dose of Core7 is to work out your daily Alk drop. Measure Alk on day 1, do not dose anything, measure the following day (same time of day) and see how much your Alk has dropped, put that info into this calculator here (official one coming soon) and that will tell you your approx equivalent dose of Core7.
     

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    Tim@Triton Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Gold Sponsor

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    Easiest way is to drain direct into the algae chamber.
     
  3. Albert Angulo

    Albert Angulo New Member

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    Hi I am new to modern reefs but I have done allot of research and have decided to do a 57 gallon reef Triton method. I am building a custom sump and can't find one last detail anywhere for your system in my sump the main supply line from the tank going into the refugium how should the inlet go ?
    With a simple bulkhead and the pipe directly into the refugium as in option A? This would give me a bit for volume in the refugium section and I feel would force the water through the vegetation and force water flow through the the space.
    Option B would only have one baffle just enough for the pipe and flow would only go in one direction.
    Or option C that would be a complete enclosed section forcing the water to go over the baffle and this method would seam to me that once the vegetation gets growing would only flow the water across the top of the refugium section and then run off the baffle into skimmer section but I don't think the water would flow sufficiently through the plants in this manor.
    I have seen sumps made all three ways, so I was unsure which direction to go in.
    I am looking for optimal results and performance out of the refugium.
    In my setup the refugium will be 9 gallons with the Kessel purple led light that is around $300.

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    Hi Tim,
    Is there someone in Los Angeles who works with Triton that I can contact to help me setup a Triton System?
    thx
     
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    Hi Tim,
    Is there someone in Los Angeles, CA that I can contact to help me setup a Triton System?
    Thx
     
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    Thanks for the response Tim,
    My plan from the above is to keep the rollermat in section 1 along with the skimmer. Then in section 2 i am going to have a cheato refugium with a suitable light which will be about 150l (15% of system size, 22% tank size) then into section 3 for the return pump. i have 2 reactors for phospate remover and carbon and a UV off the return pump.

    would this still require the other method? and if it does will it mean i have to continue my water change program as well? Also would i still require coral foods, i beleive you do not need these with the full method as the cheato die off covers this.

    thanks

    jason
     
  7. Chef Tommy

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    Great informative article Tim! I actually got the info from my LFS in New Orleans. I'm looking at a 30 L to build into a new sump for Triton and he had the info on hand!
     
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    Tim@Triton Well-Known Member R2R Supporter Gold Sponsor

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    Sure,

    Tim Kelley
    (818) 570-0848;8103
     
  9. Clayton Jessup

    Clayton Jessup Valuable Member R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award

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    Can on mix supplements 3a and 3b , like if they had a 3 headed Doser ? Or does each supplement need its own dosing head ?
     
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    3a and 3b can be combined, but you have to double the dosing amount.
     
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    So from like say 2ml to 4ml ? Or is it something else ?
     
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    Correct. If you were dosing 2mL for all 4 components, then you would double that amount for the combined 3a / 3b solution. Every part gets dosed equally.
     
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    Question with this is what impact it will have on copepods. With direct and high flow will this allow copepods and amphipods a chance to thrive
     
  14. Clayton Jessup

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    Ok thank you very much minus9! I am debating between Triton Method or AquaForest so I am still trying to decide and researching both options . Thank you again .
     
  15. Tim@Triton

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    There will still be plenty of areas with lower flow for the pod communities to thrive, one or two pieces of Live Rock can also be added if required..
     
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    I've been lurking on this forum for a while and now I am in need of some advice. I have a RSR 350 (71 gallon display, 93 gallon total) and am wanting to convert to the Triton method. I have a few questions. I have the ability to do a remote refugium in the room behind my tank. I'm planning on using a 20 gallon tank. Should I do an easier setup and run the fuge off a tee from the return line or should I route the overflow drain from the DT directly into the remote fuge? If I do that, do I just re route just the primary drain or the primary and the emergency drain? (I am a noob to plumbing but have learned a lot reading on R2R and BRS) How important is it that the refugium is before the skimmer and return when running Triton? Will dosing into the return chamber be a problem if I run the fuge off the return line?
    Also, I will need to upgrade my return pump. I currently have the Sicce 5.0 and have been happy with it but I will need more flow to run a manifold and the remote refugium. Would adding a second Sicce 5.0 be too much flow and create too much back pressure? I am considering the more expensive option of using a larger DC pump such as Varios 6 or 8; Sicce 7 or 9; Eco Tech m1. Any advice is appreciated, I'm fairly new to the hobby but I'm not broke yet.
     
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    your best running from the return! i have a ALR2 setup next to the sump in the other door area. i pump from the return section through algae reactor and then the outlet goes back into the skimmer section. its great as the sump still stays nice and clean. once every couple of weeks i remove the reactor, clean/rinse the algae in fresh saltwater. if it requires trimming its the perfect time.
     
  18. ShawnSaucier

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    Tim,
    I’ve been in the process of converting my system (187g)over to Triton. I just plumbed in a new sump that is in accordance to what is required. I have two main issues at this point. Flow/turn over- I don’t think I can achieve the 10x turnover rate as the tank is drilled with 1” bulkheads. Unless I drain the tank and run exterior plumbing up the back , I think and hope the best I can achieve with the 1” is maybe 5-7 times turn over. How badly could this effect the system/method effectiveness?
    Dosing- can this be done with a three head doser or must it be done with 4?
     
  19. madcanary

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    My Triton tank is 1 year old!! My only problem is keeping all the detritus out of my refugium cheato without filter socks I’m also running the synergy triton TS44 it’s a perfect match.
    Tank seems happy around 7 Dkh

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    The Detritus in the first chamber with the chaeto is my only big issue also so far for me also. I may just use my old canister filter filled with filter floss to clean it out.
     
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