Ich Question

[Kinghugo5]

Hi All,

I’ve been reading a lot on ich and monitoring the first couple of fish I didn’t QT and have a question. I didn’t take a pic but can tomorrow of my clown that a singular white spot appeared on his tail today.

The same thing happened with the gramma a week or so ago.

However my question is, life cycle speaking, is this how ich would present itself? Or is it pretty certain that if I see one spot I will see multiples for sure before they fall off. None of the fish have ever had more than one singular spot and I can’t find a good answer. They are still eating and acting normal and have been on a prazi treatment in case of flukes (they also exhibited flashing weeks ago).

It just all seems very spread out to be ich or velvet which is why I treated for flukes.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

Nate

 

[Humblefish]

If it's an ich trophont, the max time it will spend on a fish before dropping off is 7 days.

Skin flukes on a fish move around.

Lymphocystis nodules can remain stationary for an undetermined amount of time: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lymphocystis.257461/

 

[Kinghugo5]

If it's an ich trophont, the max time it will spend on a fish before dropping off is 7 days.

Skin flukes on a fish move around.

Lympho can remain stationary on a fish for an undetermined amount of time: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/lymphocystis.257461/

So the copperband definitely had lympho when I introduced two weeks ago and it’s slowly going away. Is it possible it got picked up by the clown? I just can’t find anything out there where only a singular white spot was noticed and not multiples. “If you can can’t it it’s ich if you can’t it’s velvet”. I guess with that logic I can count.... one. Ha. But it seems odd for ich from what I’ve read.

Thanks!!

 

[Humblefish]

So the copperband definitely had lympho when I introduced two weeks ago and it’s slowly going away. Is it possible it got picked up by the clown?

Yes, Lympho is highly transmissible. The nodules rupture, sending the virus into the water seeking out other hosts to infect.

 

[4FordFamily]

Ich is a bit larger and can be seen for longer in the same spot. It proliferates more slowly.

Velvet quickly takes over and the spots are smaller/more numerous and much more quickly.

Lympho can start off looking like ich.

A photo will help us identify :)

 

[Kinghugo5]

Ich is a bit larger and can be seen for longer in the same spot. It proliferates more slowly.

Velvet quickly takes over and the spots are smaller/more numerous and much more quickly.

Lympho can start off looking like ich.

A photo will help us identify :)

I’ll get one tomorrow! They’ve already retired to the algae scrubber for the night (their anemone ).

 

[Kinghugo5]

Interesting side note to this. The spot is in the exact same spot of both fish. Here is the CBB with it.

 

[theMeat]

When ich first appears you see the spots every month or so. With each cycle some hatch and nature sooner than others so it gets blurred and more constant

 

[Kinghugo5]

When ich first appears you see the spots every month or so. With each cycle some hatch and nature sooner than others so it gets blurred and more constant

So is it fair to assume if the clown only exhibits the one spot on the tail it’s most likely lympho from the CBB?

 

[theMeat]

So is it fair to assume if the clown only exhibits the one spot on the tail it’s most likely lympho from the CBB?

Have no idea, but if it’s a new tank it should become pretty clear pretty quick

 

[4FordFamily]

That CBB looks like lympho to me. That’s also a common location/presentation for it, particularly on an angel or butterfly.

 

[Kinghugo5]

That CBB looks like lympho to me. That’s also a common location/presentation for it, particularly on an angel or butterfly.

I noticed it diminishing probably 2 days ago after it had been eating for several days. Today it looks almost broken in two pieces with a little missing in between. I credit it to the fish having a full belly for almost a week and getting much more acclimated. Although like clock work as soon as I noticed it diminishing, the clown shows a similar spot at the exact tail fin location.

 

[ngoodermuth]

Keep an eye on it. If the tail continues to deteriorate it might be something bacterial. Also contagious. An updated photo might be helpful.

If you can, soak foods with vita-chem or selcon for good measure.

Edit. Just re-read your update. You meant the nodule is broken... I read it as his tail was missing a piece in the center. Nevermind [emoji23]

 

[Kinghugo5]

Keep an eye on it. If the tail continues to deteriorate it might be something bacterial. Also contagious. An updated photo might be helpful.

If you can, soak foods with vita-chem or selcon for good measure.

Edit. Just re-read your update. You meant the nodule is broken... I read it as his tail was missing a piece in the center. Nevermind [emoji23]

Haha yes! It may be because the lights were in morning mode when I left for work, but the clown spot may be gone already which makes me believe it could’ve been a stray fluke or something that ended up dying.