Orange Setosa (Montipora) PSA!!

[Hemmdog]

My setosa is one of my first corals and biggest colony.

That’s epic. How long have you had it?

 

[Forshurley]

That’s epic. How long have you had it?

The coral is about 5 years old now.

 

[maroun.c]

Thanks for the write up, one of the nicest corals indeed.
I had a huge colony which got stung for maybe 1-2 days by a blue matrix, the tiny white burn took half of the colony in less than 4-5 days and then it stopped for a couple weeks only for the whole colony to RTN overnight after. Not sure if the colony was already struggling which caused this crazy response to a tiny burn. I do have around 30 frags of it in other tanks and frag tanks connected to same system which continued to do well.
months later I had a mishap in my setup and all the setosa colonies and frags were from the first corals to brown out and RTN.
An amazing coral to have but per my experience extremely finicky for a monti

 

[vetteguy53081]

My setosa is one of my first corals and biggest colony.

Thought mine was big!! That's a nice one !!

 

[LilElroyJetson]

My setosa is one of my first corals and biggest colony.

Incredible colony!! ;Woot

 

[LilElroyJetson]

Thanks for the write up, one of the nicest corals indeed.
I had a huge colony which got stung for maybe 1-2 days by a blue matrix, the tiny white burn took half of the colony in less than 4-5 days and then it stopped for a couple weeks only for the whole colony to RTN overnight after. Not sure if the colony was already struggling which caused this crazy response to a tiny burn. I do have around 30 frags of it in other tanks and frag tanks connected to same system which continued to do well.
months later I had a mishap in my setup and all the setosa colonies and frags were from the first corals to brown out and RTN.
An amazing coral to have but per my experience extremely finicky for a monti

Thank you, and I agree, they’re gorgeous! @Seawitch also helped with this write up so thanks to her as well! And thanks for sharing your experience!

 

[Marc2952]

Background Classification

All of the hard corals fall under the order, Scleractinia, which falls under the subclass Hexacorallia. Hexacorallia is under the class, Anthozoa, within the phylum, Cnidaria.

So, when we talk about SPS coral, some people say, "small polyp stony" coral, while others say "small polyp Scleractinian coral" which means the same thing. It's worth noting that the terms "SPS" and "LPS" wouldn't be found in any marine biology book as they are terms used exclusively in the reef hobby, but they're useful to hobbyists for discussing different coral types based on characteristics we easily see.

Screenshot courtesy of @Seawitch

There are 15 families that fall under the order, Scleractinia. Acroporidae is the first one. And within Acroporidae is the genus, Montipora.

Orange Setosa (Montipora Setosa)

“The Orange Setosa is an awesome Montipora species with a rather unique growth form among SPS corals. This coral is famous for its intense orange coloration but it can appear pink when placed under very intense lighting. As the Orange Setosa colony grows, it forms an undulating encrusted base and branches that eventually fuse together before branching again. Mature colonies often have extremely unusual shapes and it seems that no two colonies are ever the same. Compared to other Montipora species, the Orange Setosa has very few polyps however they give the otherwise smooth surface a delicate texture. The Orange Setosa is a relatively slow grower, but we have found it to be hardy and tolerant of a wide range of lighting and flow conditions.”

Source: ORA, Orange Setosa (Montipora setosa)

Location:
Indo-Pacific - Montipora have a wide distribution are typically found around the islands of the Indopacific including Fiji, Tonga, Solomon Islands, and the Great Barrier Reef.
Source: Tidal Gardens, Orange Montipora Setosa

Feeding:
Montipora relies heavily on the products of their zooxanthellae but to a lesser degree may feed on phytoplankton and similarly sized microfauna in the water column.
Source: ibid.

Requirements:
Flow: Moderate-High
Lighting: Moderate-High
Placement: Bottom-Middle
(Via: Unique Corals)

Discussion:
What’s the difference between these two corals?

(A)

(B)

Answer: Coral (A) is RTN'd/dead, and coral (B) is thriving. Same tank. One is just a few inches lower on the rockwork than the other but also on the outter edge of the tank where the lighting is less intense. RTN stands for Rapid Tissue Necrosis.

The Orange Setosa is one of my favorite corals. Both of these frags came from the same colony and arrived in great shape. Recommended PAR for these when I purchased them from Unique Corals was 200-250 PAR. While the dead one did really well on my Frag rack for a month, once I mounted it to the liverock where I’d hoped it would thrive, unfortunately, it instead completely RTN'd within the day.

Admittedly, my the lighting on my tank is very intense and likely overkill. I am running 2 AI Hydra 26 HD lights running the Daxby schedule about 14” above the water on an 18” deep 30 falling long tank. PAR in the top center of my tank where most of my acros are is between 380-450 (like I said, pretty intense). While I light acclimated these corals, the 250-300 par where I placed the Orange Setosa ultimately proved to be way too intense for the coral, it RTN'd, and I had to purchase a replacement to make up for the loss. Which is a bummer because I liked the structure of the one I killed a lot more.

I was surprised because I have 3 other Montipora under much more intense lighting in my tank, and every other coral in the tank has great color and polyp extension.

My opinion, and this may be common to others who have had more experience with this coral, is that the Orange Setosa Montipora is a LOW LIGHT SPS coral. It may still be considered high light to true low light corals such as softies, but in comparison to some other light loving Montipora, mine has shown the best color under 150-200 PAR. If you don’t have a PAR reading device, I would suggest starting the coral in a very low light, moderate/high flow area in your tank and slowly move it up to where you want it in the tank while paying very close attention to it once you move it so if it begins to bleach you can move it back to a much lower light area immediately to prevent a loss like the one I had. I’ve found a few other posts on R2R that corroborate my experience and I just wanted to share my experience with you all so that nobody else suffers the same loss I did even when I thought I had acclimated it properly. :)

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I also got anotber orange setosa to see how it goes since mines bleached and ive had my alk super stable. I noticed that around 230 PAR it starting to bleach so im tbinking of bringing it to the bottom of the tank since i know it cant be starving due to me having my phosphates at 0.08 and nitrates at 5.

 

[David Gaskins]

Tripped onto this thread while researching some Setosa I have had for many years. Nice read and a lot of good information!

While the main Setosa colony on rock has remained a stable bright red/orange, a piece that I had accidentally fragged around a year ago has had exponential growth followed by a color morph/shift to dull-bright green in a large part of piece. I cannot recall any pieces having been in contact other than Green Montipora spongodes.

Sorry for crappy iPhone pic.

Thoughts?

https://tidalgardens.com/stock-green-montipora-spongodes.html​

 

[vetteguy53081]

Tripped onto this thread while researching some Setosa I have had for many years. Nice read and a lot of good information!

While the main Setosa colony on rock has remained a stable bright red/orange, a piece that I had accidentally fragged around a year ago has had exponential growth followed by a color morph/shift to dull-bright green in a large part of piece. I cannot recall any pieces having been in contact other than Green Montipora spongodes.

Sorry for crappy iPhone pic.

Thoughts?

https://tidalgardens.com/stock-green-montipora-spongodes.html​

Has an appearance of being grafted but with it always orange, may be due to changes in: Light- salt type- calcium or flow

 

[danbecerra]

Good information! I'm just introducing my second SPS after keeping only soft corals and a couple hammers, my first SPS was a leptoseris that has been in my tank for 3 or 4 months, then I introduced this frag of Montipora Setosa... I've only had it for 3 weeks but it seems to be fine, although no growth observed so far... Here is a picture, on top it was 1 week after introducing, on bottom after 3 weeks... This is my test whether I can give a try to "easier" SPS...

 

[vetteguy53081]

Good information! I'm just introducing my second SPS after keeping only soft corals and a couple hammers, my first SPS was a leptoseris that has been in my tank for 3 or 4 months, then I introduced this frag of Montipora Setosa... I've only had it for 3 weeks but it seems to be fine, although no growth observed so far... Here is a picture, on top it was 1 week after introducing, on bottom after 3 weeks... This is my test whether I can give a try to "easier" SPS...

These are very hardy specimens and should offer growth and good color for tank

 

[danbecerra]

Slow grower for me, and feel I might be missing some more flow. Algae has attached to mine...

 

[vetteguy53081]

Slow grower for me, and feel I might be missing some more flow. Algae has attached to mine...

These specimens require calcium of at least 400, medium water flow and lighting. Should be a bright red and not pink