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Wow! There’s some pretty impressive mangrove tanks out there! I have small mangroves in my fuge with a couple of leaves but nothing like that LOL. I have been thinking about doing either a lagoon reef tank with a mangrove or a planted fresh water with mangroves
 
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Wow! There’s some pretty impressive mangrove tanks out there! I have small mangroves in my fuge with a couple of leaves but nothing like that LOL. I have been thinking about doing either a lagoon reef tank with a mangrove or a planted fresh water with mangroves
LAGOON REEF!
 

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Mangroves are not illegal in AZ. It's just that nurseries have to be certified to ship any plants there. Here's a link to a source in AZ: https://www.azgardens.com/product/red-mangrove-rhizophora-mangle/

I used to sell plant cuttings on eBay and wouldn't ship to AZ or CA for that reason.

I have tried twice to buy on line, once from LiveAquria and was informed by both vendors that they do not ship mangroves to AZ.
Guess I will try more vendors.

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Anybody do them in a brackish tank?
I guess I have. What are your concerns? They can handle any type of water. You just need to find out the salinity of the water they were raised in, begin growing them in thst salinity, then gradually over a few days acclimate the water to where you want it to be. They don’t like to be abruptly switched to different water environments often. Each time they will generally lose their leaves and then recover. But they are at risk while they are acclimating and conditioning to the new environment. Best advice I can give, is that they don’t like to be f*cked with. Set em, and let them be. People always have so many questions and concerns about jumping into mangroves, which is great! Doing your research on the front end. But I have had so many mangroves, abuses the hell out of them, unknowingly went against many recommendations, and rarely of ever had a problem. These trees are rockstars. They inhabit the areas they do because no other tree can. So they have a monopoly on the tidal coastlines. People in warmer climates put them in a bucket in their backyard and never touch them. Just top off the water with old tank water. Those are some significant swings there. Basically, nothing on earth can survive on saltwater, nothing terrestrial. These trees have evolved a way to either inhibit salt from entering, or a way to excrete it. Just depends on how much work they have to do. I went on too long, apologies. What are your concerns specifically?
 
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Here is Peter Hyne’s tank (nineball on Reef Central), with the most absurd mangrove filtration I have ever seen in my life. I think this happened over 9 years. Here is a link to his thread and some pictures:


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I guess I have. What are your concerns? They can handle any type of water. You just need to find out the salinity of the water they were raised in, begin growing them in thst salinity, then gradually over a few days acclimate the water to where you want it to be. They don’t like to be abruptly switched to different water environments often. Each time they will generally lose their leaves and then recover. But they are at risk while they are acclimating and conditioning to the new environment. Best advice I can give, is that they don’t like to be f*cked with. Set em, and let them be. People always have so many questions and concerns about jumping into mangroves, which is great! Doing your research on the front end. But I have had so many mangroves, abuses the hell out of them, unknowingly went against many recommendations, and rarely of ever had a problem. These trees are rockstars. They inhabit the areas they do because no other tree can. So they have a monopoly on the tidal coastlines. People in warmer climates put them in a bucket in their backyard and never touch them. Just top off the water with old tank water. Those are some significant swings there. Basically, nothing on earth can survive on saltwater, nothing terrestrial. These trees have evolved a way to either inhibit salt from entering, or a way to excrete it. Just depends on how much work they have to do. I went on too long, apologies. What are your concerns specifically?
No concerns. I just wanted to see some. If I grow some I want to do it in brackish just to give me an excuse to get some brackish fish. Many moons ago I started some in a bucket out in my backyard. I was going to attempt to shape the roots in a way similar to bonsai, but that got shelved due to too many projects at the time. I thought about putting one of them in the pond I was building at the time, but I was worried the roots would eventually break through the liner. I never got back to it though. It's one of those deals where the propagules are so common here that it's way too easy to put it off as something I'll always be able to do "some day".
 
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No concerns. I just wanted to see some. If I grow some I want to do it in brackish just to give me an excuse to get some brackish fish. Many moons ago I started some in a bucket out in my backyard. I was going to attempt to shape the roots in a way similar to bonsai, but that got shelved due to too many projects at the time. I thought about putting one of them in the pond I was building at the time, but I was worried the roots would eventually break through the liner. I never got back to it though. It's one of those deals where the propagules are so common here that it's way too easy to put it off as something I'll always be able to do "some day".
My dream is definitely a mudskipper tank. The biggest hurdle for me is that their environments are just not attractive in the least way! Lol. If I can figure out how to make an attractive biotope for them, I’m all in
 

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My dream is definitely a mudskipper tank. The biggest hurdle for me is that their environments are just not attractive in the least way! Lol. If I can figure out how to make an attractive biotope for them, I’m all in
I've seen some amazing things on YouTube, but the problems I've had with such environments is adequate filtration. Using a sump to maintain 5 inches of water seems over the top lol.
 

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If you see, I began adding barnacles to the section. I’ve always kept nano creatures in this area, but this began my obsession with the lovable little barnacle blennies. There are at least 5 in this first shot, and a yasha goby. I had 3-4 yasha gobies in my display, but small fish LOVED to travel down into the sump:
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Some of the coolest pics I’ve seen in a while. So cool!!
 
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Can you trim the mangroves if they start getting to tall?
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This thread inspired me to start dosing iron to my tank. I picked up Kent Marine Iron and Manganese at my local fish store and started dosing yesterday. I’ll keep up to date on if I see results over time.
 

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Here’s a couple shots from today. Does anybody want to help select some pruning locations? I’m definitely happy with the plants height, but I would like to do some work on the canopy. I’d especially like to keep working on getting the plant to fill out the back left corner of the tank. Any ideas?

The pic of the two leaves with a tiny bud is one I pruned a few months ago. It’s been very slow to grow back.

Also my lights are fully adjustable so I can move them around to different parts of the plant. My idea was that this would help promote and target growth in certain areas. I’ll admit I have no idea if that is true or not.

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Might be wierd but if I set up a 10g tank and use water from my 60g reef can I interchange water between the two to provode nitrates and elements to the mangrove and macroalgae tank and cleaner water to the reef. Flip the water once a week or so instead of connecting them. Is this an ok idea to have?
 
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Here’s a couple shots from today. Does anybody want to help select some pruning locations? I’m definitely happy with the plants height, but I would like to do some work on the canopy. I’d especially like to keep working on getting the plant to fill out the back left corner of the tank. Any ideas?

The pic of the two leaves with a tiny bud is one I pruned a few months ago. It’s been very slow to grow back.

Also my lights are fully adjustable so I can move them around to different parts of the plant. My idea was that this would help promote and target growth in certain areas. I’ll admit I have no idea if that is true or not.

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So, in my experience, the closer and brighter the lights, the bushier and more company it will grow. Because the stems aren’t reaching for light. Since yours are getting tall, I’d say to trim the growth stem. The stem where new leaves are sprouting upward. This way the tree will start sprouting outward and make a really cool canopy. The tree will still continue to grow up, just wider, and if you cut above a leaf intersection, the branch will spread into two
 

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Sorry if this has already been asked but has anyone gotten the effect where the roots grow back upwards out of the sandbed?
 

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