The Wrasse Lover's Thread!

[JoJosReef]

This is going to be a tough one. Checking out so the female and males.

 

[homer1475]

My list would be different if we were talking adult males. I was going by the female pictures @Slocke provided.

 

[Tcook]

Vivienae
Choati
Meleagris
Geoffroy
Marisrubri
Cyanoguttatus
Negrosensis
Bipartitus
Ornatus
Moyeri
Kuiteri

 

[JoJosReef]

Time for another ranking because I am very bored. This time the leopards, Macropharyngodon, also known as the big throat teeth wrasse. (M pakoko not included due to lack of photos and because it is almost identical to meleagris). So whats your ranking?

Not very many good photos of terminal males on google images! Did the best I could. What I was surprised by is how many Macropharyngodon males have more muted colors than females--green backgrounds, less vibrant contrasts. Perhaps it's one of those "pictures don't do justice" situations?

My list:

M. bipartitis female (ok, I'm biased)
M. marisrubri female
M. geoffroy female
M. cyanoguttatis female
M. marisrubri male
M. choati male
M. choati female
M. vivienae male
M. kuiteri male
M. moyeri female
M. negrosensis female
M. meleagris female
M. vivienae female
M. kuiteri female
M. moyeri male
M. geoffroy male
M. bipartitis male
M. meleagris male
M. cyanoguttatis male
M. ornatus female
M. negrosensis male
M. ornatus male

 

[Slocke]

Not very many good photos of terminal males on google images! Did the best I could. What I was surprised by is how many Macropharyngodon males have more muted colors than females--green backgrounds, less vibrant contrasts. Perhaps it's one of those "pictures don't do justice" situations?

My list:

M. bipartitis female (ok, I'm biased)
M. marisrubri female
M. geoffroy female
M. cyanoguttatis female
M. marisrubri male
M. choati male
M. choati female
M. vivienae male
M. kuiteri male
M. moyeri female
M. negrosensis female
M. meleagris female
M. vivienae female
M. kuiteri female
M. moyeri male
M. geoffroy male
M. bipartitis male
M. meleagris male
M. cyanoguttatis male
M. ornatus female
M. negrosensis male
M. ornatus male

Nah that’s just reality. I think I once said that the only creatures where the female is generally prettier than the male is humans and leopard wrasse.
Not always but generally. I don’t want my marisrubri to change :loudly-crying-face:

 

[ISpeakForTheSeas]

Bonus as its cool if sad because these should not be sold as they are too difficult to keep: @ISpeakForTheSeas you may find these interesting.

Love Crinoids - it really is too bad we haven't figured out how/what to feed them.

 

[Slocke]

Not very many good photos of terminal males on google images! Did the best I could. What I was surprised by is how many Macropharyngodon males have more muted colors than females--green backgrounds, less vibrant contrasts. Perhaps it's one of those "pictures don't do justice" situations?

My list:

M. bipartitis female (ok, I'm biased)
M. marisrubri female
M. geoffroy female
M. cyanoguttatis female
M. marisrubri male
M. choati male
M. choati female
M. vivienae male
M. kuiteri male
M. moyeri female
M. negrosensis female
M. meleagris female
M. vivienae female
M. kuiteri female
M. moyeri male
M. geoffroy male
M. bipartitis male
M. meleagris male
M. cyanoguttatis male
M. ornatus female
M. negrosensis male
M. ornatus male

I really should have done males too. Here goes! (and yes I'm changing some of my females)

1. meleagris f
2. vivienae f
3. geoffroy f
4. cyanoguttatus f
5. cyanoguttatus m
6. marisrubri f
7. bipartitus f
8. vivienae m
9. negrosensis f
10. choati f
11. choati m
12. kuiteri f
13. geoffroy m
14. ornatus f
15. ornatus m
16. kuiteri m
17. meleagris m
18. moyeri f
19. moyeri m
20. negrosensis m
21. marisrubri m
22. bipratitus m

 

[Slocke]

Love Crinoids - it really is too bad we haven't figured out how/what to feed them.

I would love to see some in the wild swimming. I saw that some people occasionally have had success apparently but it seems like they don't really know why they had success.

 

[ISpeakForTheSeas]

I would love to see some in the wild swimming. I saw that some people occasionally have had success apparently but it seems like they don't really know why they had success.

It would be cool - they have some very unique swim styles. Yeah, to my understanding, it depends a lot on the species and their required food size, but success with them is largely luck at this point.

 

[jkcoral]

Tiny wrasse Tuesday.

 

[AZReef13]

My List is as follows;

Choati. ( My Second)
Bipartitus ( first Leopard)
Negrosensis
Kuiteri
Geoffory
Moyeri
Marisubri
Vivienae
Cyanoguttatus
Meleagris

 

[1112-425XL]

Goodnight

 

[AZReef13]

What advised can be shared about this wrasse; Macropharyngodon Lapillus? Any other car that a normal leopard? do they get real large? Thanks

 

[Slocke]

What advised can be shared about this wrasse; Macropharyngodon Lapillus? Any other car that a normal leopard? do they get real large? Thanks

Its Halichoeres lapillus. An ancient ancestor of the other leopard wrasses but not a leopard wrasse. As for care no idea. Maybe somewhere between the two genera.


"Leopard wrasses of the genus Macropharyngodon are clearly a monophyletic group of Indo-Pacific coral reef fishes. This agrees with their traditional taxonomy (Kuiter, 2002, Randall, 1978) and preliminary molecular analyses of three species (Barber and Bellwood, 2005). We also found that Halichoeres lapillus was the sister-taxon to Macropharyngodon. Halichoeres was identified as the sister genus to Macropharyngodon by both Norman (1957) and Randall (1978)."

 

[AZReef13]

Its Halichoeres lapillus. An ancient ancestor of the other leopard wrasses but not a leopard wrasse. As for care no idea. Maybe somewhere between the two genera.


"Leopard wrasses of the genus Macropharyngodon are clearly a monophyletic group of Indo-Pacific coral reef fishes. This agrees with their traditional taxonomy (Kuiter, 2002, Randall, 1978) and preliminary molecular analyses of three species (Barber and Bellwood, 2005). We also found that Halichoeres lapillus was the sister-taxon to Macropharyngodon. Halichoeres was identified as the sister genus to Macropharyngodon by both Norman (1957) and Randall (1978)."

Thanks that's why I couldn't Find any thing since its list incorrectly,,,, Was pretty fish, thanks for the update

 

[jkcoral]

Do any of you all have wrasses that eat nori/seaweed off of the clip?

My rhomboid has started eating it pretty frequently in the last few weeks. In 20 years I have never had a wrasse bite seaweed other than my Naoko, but he just seemed to attack it because it moved. I’m not sure if this is somewhat normal or if maybe there is some deficiency in the normal diet that it’s trying to fill?

 

[UtahReefer]

Don't get it, but I have a carpenter's flasher wrasse in a 100 gallon tank and he's aggressive to any other wrasse put in the tank. He has harassed to death a yellow Coris and a Clown Fairy. Thought these were generally a peaceful wrasse. Looks like I will have to remove him because pest eating wrasses are more important to my reef. Anyone ever had a problem like this with a Carpenter's?

 

[Slocke]

Do any of you all have wrasses that eat nori/seaweed off of the clip?

My rhomboid has started eating it pretty frequently in the last few weeks. In 20 years I have never had a wrasse bite seaweed other than my Naoko, but he just seemed to attack it because it moved. I’m not sure if this is somewhat normal or if maybe there is some deficiency in the normal diet that it’s trying to fill?

Some of my wrasse do the same.
True herbivores and carnivores are rare in nature. Carnivores will eat vegetables to help with digestion and almost all herbivores will supplement their diet with protein to get the amino acids they don’t get from plants.

 

[Troylee]

 

[Tcook]

Goodnight

Oooooooo…………..clean sand.